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Clovis Living - 12/21/2008
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Rita
Clovis, NM

All these negative people need to get real. Clovis is not a bad place to live in really. Sure like all other areas there are problems with crime and drugs, but divide that by the pop and then compare...not so bad after all. Don't like something..then don't sit and complain. Take a positive approach and try to make a difference. There's plenty of changes needed but do you know of a place that doesn't??? Be real, make the best of any situation you are in and the world really will be a better place even if there are a few rocks in the road!

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Dero

re: Clovis Living - 12/21/2008 - 2/20/2013
In situations such as this, it is very difficult to remaian impartial and relay useful information not skewed by my utter distaste for Clovis, however so, I will attempt to do so. I am military and have recently been sentenced to a tour in Clovis for an unfortunately undisclosed peroid of time. I do not believe the individuals posting negative comments,do so for the sole purpose if slandering the "City" of Clovis for fun. I do believe their words are truthful in many respects yet, the individuals who have the power to do something about Clovis' problems choose not to act. I was ordered to report to Cannon AFB a little over a year ago and I was not excited due to the snickers and ribs from co-workers at my previous duty station. Inspite of all the negative connotations, my wife who is experiencing the US for the first time and I decided to give our new assignment a chance and make our own conclustions. It did not take long after our arrival for our optimizm to be irrevocably dashed. Now, I will explain why. We flew directly into the Clovis Municiple Airport with only two other newly assigned "inmates" from Japan via Colorado and after a long 23 hour trip, were immediately greeted to the stinch that is Clovis, no taxi service to the base, and the one airport staff on duty had only one concern....going home. Mind you, it was only 7pm. He made it clear he was not interested in converstation so we felt alienated right away. So we dragged our bags outside to wait for AF personnel to pick us up so he could close only to met by a 5 foot snake on the porch. After a 2 hour wait, we were finally met by someone from the base to take us to TLF. As soon as we pulled out of the parking lot of the airport, he starts talking about the "Shifty Fifty" and how he was going to retire becuase they weren't treating his wife well becuase she was of East Indian descent. Without getting into too much detail, she worked as a medical professional and they fired her becuase they didn't want to pay for her services even though she was under contract at the time. They, in turn, hired another individual apparently from Clovis. Well lets just get the main points why most Cannon personnel do not enjoy their tours in Clovis. 1. The weather is consistantly inpredictable. It almost always windy (20+ MPH) 2. The stinch can be smelled for miles and it's so strong it can make you sick to the point you want to throw up. 3. Very few trees and only a few homes have grass yards. There's no water other than a man made pothole filled with muddy water and no fish. In other words it's very ugly no matter how you try to dress it up. 4. The town does not focus much on upkeep. 90 percent of the roads have huge potholes that never get fixed. Most of the road markings are so faded you can barely see them in the daytime and not at all at night. There are very few street lamps except for on the main drag of Prince St. This is where you'll see most of the business in Clovis...This is a busy road with most of the worse potholes in the town. 5. Customer service in most of the Town is lack-luster at best. From McDonald's to your local auto repair shop, to medical care representatives. It's all bad. They seem to have the mantality of take what you get and give me your money. I assume this is due to the fact that the closest competition for your business is 150+ miles away in any direction. I consistantly get sloppily presented food, I'm sold lemon vechicles at high prices and sold shifty warrenties that aren't honored when I try to use them, and medical services that are basically a waste of time. 6. The cost of living for this area to far too high for what you pay for from food to housing, to internet and cable/cellular services. Basically, you are forced to overspend to get service for things better places provide at bargain prices. 8.The local people couldn't be anymore out of touch with the military population that they are. Most of them have no idea what goes on at the base or how critical Cannon is to the Clovis economy. I've heard routine comments such as we don't really want the military, but we want the base, but we want our people (Clovites)to operate it. Clovis does give out nasty burger one day a year during "Cannon Appreciation Day" Observe that it's Cannon appreciation...not military appreciation day. Clovites seems narrow minded and unwilling to see Clovis for what it really is. And instead of addressing why so many military are unhappy there, they simply get offended and discount what so many say. I can go on, but there isn't enough time in the day. To sum things up. Even though the area isn't the best, there's only so much you can do about it. What makes Clovis so bad is the people. Who don't care enough about what the military goes through to even give them honest, pride filled services. The mindset of "We'll take as much of your money as we can and then you can go" is rampid and I refuse to spend any more money than I absolutely have to on the Clovis economy. I also spent 5 years in Minot ND, and I though that was my worst assingment until I came to Clovis. At least I felt like a part of the community while I was there as the people of Minot do so much more than just pretend to be patriotic so congress doesn't pull the military and leave them to their own greedy devices. I would be utterly pleased to watch Clovis flounder like a fish out of water when Cannon finally does pull out. Clovis does not deserve consideration as far as I'm concened and if you don't want the military there, I'd be happy to leave you your smelly, run-down, dirty, obscenely over priced township all to yourselves..You can have it. And when your economy shrivels up like a raisen, don't come crying to phrases of patriotism becuase you need your Cannon AFB crutch back. Clovis can be a descent place to live, but it up to the ones in charge. Show that you care and mean it or at least do something. The local population can make an assignment to Cannon bareable if they cared to try. Stop cheating the military for every cent of their money...stop acting like we have money to spare. At least give services that match the prices.


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Tony

re: Clovis Living - 12/21/2008 - 5/22/2011
Ladies and gentleman exhibit A. This person shows what we deal with, its considered negative to tell them what the town is missing and you are told to"Take a positive approach". Picture being sent to jail against your will and the when you ask for something like an hour of TV time, they tell you "be real, make the best of the situation" in other words we like it this way, so you shut up and like it to or quit the military or whatever job caused you to come here.


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Jennifer

re: Clovis Living - 12/21/2008 - 8/3/2011
I honestly have tried to be positive about living here in Clovis, NM. We ended up buying a new home in the local area. A word of caution to anyone having homes built around you, the local contractors will steal water and electricity from you. We now have locks on all outside electrical boxes and water faucets. Clovis actually could be a nice little town, but not for military. If you didn't grow up in Clovis, then you are just treated as an outsider. I have lived in many places and even overseas. Next to San Angelo, TX in 2003, this has got to be the most depressing place to live for a military family. We were stationed overseas in Japan prior to PSCing to Clovis, and were very excited to be moving back to America. Since living here, I have come to the realization that NM is nothing like the America that we have dreamed about returning to. Locals in Clovis, NM do not like the military. Home prices are outrageous due to the fact that there is very little housing. Clovis has known for several years now that more military would be moving into the area, yet very few homes have been built. There's also a new law that homes sold after 2005 would be valued at 97 percent of the sale value instead of the prior 50 percent for property taxes. http://www.cnjonline.com/news/purchased-44036-house-residential.html Now, lets see, who do you think will be paying the extra taxes to cover all the taxes the locals aren't paying? Military!!!!! Who else has bought since 2005! Living in Clovis, NM feels the same as living in Japan to me. The locals hate the military, you can't understand the language around you, and they love taking the military for their money. Also, the Affordable Housing was voted against by the locals. All the Mayor can say now is that the city of Clovis can’t help with the housing shortage for Cannon Military Base. I thought this was America! It makes me furious that our military has sacrificed lives for the people of Clovis, NM, yet we are treated as foreigners in our own country. It's no wonder the military has a high suicide rate here in Clovis. I honestly can't wait until my husband retires in 3 years. Leaving this place will be a pleasure. I'll be headed to the real America where the grass is green, and the freedom to choose where to live is all mine!!!!!!!


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Jo Ann
Clovis, NM

Clovis, NM - 12/6/2011

I was born and raised here, since 1958. I'd like to say, that life is what you make of it. Yes, we are a small growing family oriented community. Diversity is alive and well in Clovis, NM.There are opportunities, but you have to go out and find them, nothing is handed to you. Then you appreciate that and life much more. Yes, there is crime, just like everywhere else. That can be changed if they want to change. ppl are friendly and will open their doors to you. Yes, we have lots of hypocrites, but who doesn't? Many restaurants and places to shop, not like a big city, but you can travel about an hour one way to Lubbock or Amarillo and another four hours the other way and be in Albuquerque. Schools and colleges and jobs. The cost of living.... well, that's a problem everywhere. We also have CAFB and that's a big plus with more new advanced businesses opening up many opportunities. Come visit, you may stay awhile!!

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kate
Clovis, NM

Hell - 11/14/2010

I have traveled the country and have visited many cities and states. I have never been in a place so bad in my life. The people are nice to your face,but if you are not from here they don't want you here and will never accept you. They are not social. They all talk about being christian but no one knows what that really means. You will not be welcomed by anyone in this hell hole no church no organization of any kind. The people here are slow to do anything if they got any slower they would be in a grave. The customer service is so bad they act like they are doing you a favor. You have to travel over a hundred miles to get a decent meal. The restaurants are horrible if a real health inspector went in to these places they would close them. The neighborhoods are dirty with broken cars in their yard and plenty of trash. You can clearly see there is no code enforcement. Dogs are running up and down the streets. Driving into the city it looks like a dump with run down buildings, trash, vehicles that haven't moved in a decade. The smell and flies make you want to scream. Driving in the parking lot of walmart is like a death wish. The people there wear their pajamas and slippers to the store. If you want to shop you have to go to Lubbock or Amarillo. The nicest people here are the ones not from here. If your military stick with the people from the military or you will not have any social outlets at all. I have never seen so many fat kids in a town this small before. It is clear that the community leaders that no pride in the town so the residents don't either. If you have children there is NOTHING for them to do no programs nothing. The best of this town is the community college. I am here with the military and can't wait to leave. I guess this has taught me that where I came from is heaven and it will nice to go home. And for the person who says if you don't like it do something about it, dream on no one will let you do anything to help the community or even volunteer. The attitude is your not from here leave your money and go home.

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Simone
Clovis, NM

Clovis is horrible - 9/14/2010

People need to get real. Whoever likes Clovis needs to go out and look at the rest of the world. This horrible place is full of Meth addicts who like to hang out on play grounds while blowing smoke in their baby's face. Stay away if you can. The worst place I have ever been to.Many third world countries have cleaner living standards than people in Clovis, and the medical care is worse than I could have ever imagined. So, if you like Clovis, and you are one of these delusional people who claim that this rat hole is a great place to raise children, get some professional help!

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williams
Clovis, NM

Clovis is an awful place all around - 7/9/2010

Clovis is the reason we should slap the New out of New Mexico and give it back. I am stationed here and not here by choice and would kill to leave here and so would all of the military and if they say otherwise then they are humping the cows and are now a clovinite. All of the judges to the Cops are corrupt to the core. I hope everyday that a tornado blows this crap hole away.

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Lo
Clovis, NM

Pass on Clovis if you have the choice!! - 4/23/2010

People say "Clovis isn't so bad." Well, let me be the honest voice here. I am not pleased with Clovis. We expected to like it - we had heard there was a moderate cost of living and that it was a great place for families. What we have found is quite the opposite. First, we paid $167,000 for a 1300 sq foot house - hardly what I would call "moderate" and especially considering how much more (better, newer, etc.) house we can get for that price in Lubbock, or San Antonio, or just about anywhere with more to offer than Clovis. Second, as for being great for families - we haven't seen that! We have a 6 year old and there are not many programs offered for his age. Where we used to live he had tons of options for sports and other events - here, it's limited at best. Also, the "Clovites" (those who are "from" here) are LESS than welcoming to outsiders - good luck blending in at a church or any other group. If you're not from here, go to a big church where there are lots of military families - at least then SOMEONE will likely talk to you. Oh... and my favorite -- there are SIX Red Cross Volunteers here and they are all from the base. None of the locals. I guess the locals are more self centered and don't really care. People groups like the Committee of Fifty have the power to pull together to save a base (that the townsfolks clearly don't want as evidenced by their general attitudes toward military people, their complete lack of customer service, and their fighting tooth and nail to keep any GOOD businesses that people want from coming into town), but they don't have the power to get their own community to step up to serve their OWN COMMUNITY? I have been here almost 2 years and am definitely "OVER" Clovis and done giving it a chance -- now I am just marking the days of my sentence on the wall until one day I can hopefully get the heck out of here!!!!

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Lo
Clovis, NM

Worst place I've lived - 4/23/2010

People say "Clovis isn't so bad." Well, let me be the honest voice here. I am not pleased with Clovis. We expected to like it - we had heard there was a moderate cost of living and that it was a great place for families. What we have found is quite the opposite. First, we paid $167,000 for a 1300 sq foot house - hardly what I would call "moderate" and especially considering how much more (better, newer, etc.) house we can get for that price in Lubbock, or San Antonio, or just about anywhere with more to offer than Clovis. Second, as for being great for families - we haven't seen that! We have a 6 year old and there are not many programs offered for his age. Where we used to live he had tons of options for sports and other events - here, it's limited at best. Also, the "Clovites" (those who are "from" here) are LESS than welcoming to outsiders - good luck blending in at a church or any other group. If you're not from here, go to a big church where there are lots of military families - at least then SOMEONE will likely talk to you. Oh... and my favorite -- there are SIX Red Cross Volunteers here and they are all from the base. None of the locals. I guess the locals are more self centered and don't really care. People groups like the Committee of Fifty have the power to pull together to save a base (that the townsfolks clearly don't want as evidenced by their general attitudes toward military people, their complete lack of customer service, and their fighting tooth and nail to keep any GOOD businesses that people want from coming into town), but they don't have the power to get their own community to step up to serve their OWN COMMUNITY? I have been here almost 2 years and am definitely "OVER" Clovis and done giving it a chance -- now I am just marking the days of my sentence on the wall until one day I can hopefully get the heck out of here!!!!

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Rita
Clovis, NM

Clovis Living - 12/21/2008

All these negative people need to get real. Clovis is not a bad place to live in really. Sure like all other areas there are problems with crime and drugs, but divide that by the pop and then compare...not so bad after all. Don't like something..then don't sit and complain. Take a positive approach and try to make a difference. There's plenty of changes needed but do you know of a place that doesn't??? Be real, make the best of any situation you are in and the world really will be a better place even if there are a few rocks in the road!

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Eddie
Mary Esther, FL

Awful Place to Live - 9/24/2008

High crime rates. High use of Meth. I suspect that most of it comes from the lack of entertainment within 100 miles from the city. I spent a year there, and it was one the worst year of my life. The people in the city rely on the military to sustain them financially, which is probably why the politicians were able to con AFSOC into taking over the base. The town is pretty run down, and the real estate between 1st Street and 14th Street is undesirable due to it being run down and crime infested. The summers are really hot and the winters are really cold. The only thing close to good I can say about the place is there's alot of sun.

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Bp
Clovis, NM

WHY LIVING IN CLOVIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED - 5/12/2008

While this area has a reasonable cost-of-living and crime is low, statistics are rising. The population has grown to over 50,000 - the police can't keep officers because the city does not pay enough - there is a shortage of officers. On the subject of health, the air quality is VERY poor. The medical care is among the worst in the nation. The doctors are 4th rate rejects who would not be accepted in any good medical institute. The hospital, Plain Regional Medical Center is a JOKE! Honestly, you would stand a better chance of surviving at Huntsville, Texas (where the executions are held) than at this sorry excuse of a hospital. They first had 13 violations by the state and then got another 37 citations. That is how bad the hospital, doctors and medical care in Clovis is. Most people here choose to go to Lubbock Texas, where the care is fair quality, but still not outstanding. We go to Johns Hopkins Medical Institute, the finest in the country, rated #1 in Best Hospitals by U.S. News and World Report for the past 30 years. There is very little to do in Clovis - the smell from cow manure can be very strong and the strong winds which kicks up dust contributes to cases of asthma. We only moved here so my wife could take care of her mother. We are planning to move to the east coast, where it is both beautiful, plenty to do, and close to Johns Hopkins Medicine!

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Clint
Barry, IL

Clovis - Pros/Cons - 4/6/2008

Pros: 1. Low crime rate 2. Extremely low cost of living for region 3. Affordable place to live 4. Good school system 5. Nice physical setting and climate 6. An overall good place to live and raise a family Cons: 1. Not much to do 2. Very poor air quality

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Linda
Newport News, VA

Negative comments make me depressed! - 2/22/2008

I love this web site, but it saddens me to hear so many terrible things about our beautiful Country! Is there anyone out there who can shine a little "light" on these dark and depressing stories? Linda Virginia Resident

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mil1
Clovis, NM

Clovis, NM the city of choice for sexual predators - 1/6/2008

Before relocating to Clovis NM you should check out http://www.criminalcheck.com/. The zip code for Clovis is 88101.

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Someone
Cheyenne, WY

Clovis is not a good place to live - 1/8/2006

Clovis, New Mexico is a very undesriable place to live. The schools here are inferior to many in the nation. I would wager to say that the schools in Mississippi are far superior (Now that is really saying something!) There are no fine restaurants in town to dine at. The best store to shop in here is Walmart. you have to drive 100 miles to either Lubbock, TX or Amarillo, TX to feel as if you are not in a lost civilization. The town smells like cow manuer 24/7 and the locals boast that the aforementioned stench is the smell of money. Clovis is truly the armpit of the USA

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LESLIE
Clovis, NM

tax rate is incorect - 9/14/2005

The Tax rate for Clovis, NM is 7.4375% as of 01 July 05. It has changed numerous times since your reported rate of 5.85%. That's a big difference!!!

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