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  5/4/2017
Bestplaces doesn't want u to know truth re Tucson
Previous negative posts on Tucson were deleted. Probably someone in their corrupt City Gov. complained?

I lived there multiple years. It's like Mexico in that it has no standards, is corrupt and the rich overlord the working class and poor.

You are paid substandard wages and treated like cattle.

City courts system is a joke. Chief administrator for the City courts was fired several years ago for making up a resume filled with lies. Courts are run like cattle calls cuz they don't have enough money to hire staff. City prosecutors office inhabited by several Lesbians who hate men. Courts try to bluff you to get convictions even when they have no case. And no, I was not convicted of any crime there, but I can tell you the Courts there are corrupt as many of the police. Multiple serious convictions of cops when I was there-just the tip of the iceberg.

Police and Gov. officials on the take from local adult businesses and landlords.

This is the former long time home of Joseph Bonanno, mafia boss from Sicily and back East. His corrupt tentacles are still found in the City through mob defense attorneys.

Google it if you don't believe me, I speak the truth.

Gays are accorded special rights in Tucson. Right to flirt and caress at local YMCA saunas. If you say anything against homosexuals there, they will try to make your life hell. These are often sick people. It's not their sexuality, it's their psyches.

This post will be deleted because Sperling cannot stand up for free speech on the net.

Congressional representation when I was there was a joke. The whole town runs on the premise: money talks, bullshit walks-no sense of justice or fair play.

Landlords here are frequently slumlords-the City does little or NOTHING to protect residents from things like air conditioning out in 112 degree weather, etc,etc. City cops and gov. protect landlords because that is where the money comes from. Forget about poor, disabled, etc.

Little or no accomodation for disabled individuals, frequently the target of Federal complaints in this respect.

Hard to find a good doctor here, most are way past retirement and you may have to wait months to see a specialist. Hospitals suck--look up Medicare rankings of hospitals in Tucson. I believe there "University" hospital and TMC were poorly ranked-one or two stars as I recall.

Poor public parks and recreation facilities, bring your money for private facilities.

Now the good:

GOod weather if you like hot, dry summers and mild winters.
Rare is a snowfall or temps below freezing.

Lots of sunshine-beware skin cancer.

Lots of good grocery stores and competition among them, but used to be a cheap town, no more, prices rising all the time.

Lots of health clubs, most are dirty and not any good.
Tucson Raquet Club is ok.

City is spread out, so look for long commutes.

Crime is through the roof, lots of meth and drug activity, choose your neighborhood carefully.

Air is getting bad, starting to see haze over mountains when I left.

Most public cultural activites are anti-white people, geared toward beaners mostly. You will feel like your a minority at these events. I do not mean you will be mistreated, just you will feel you don't belong unless your Hispanic, speak Spanish, etc.

Their library system was pretty good until they started requiring ids to use the computers so they can spy, track you.

University of Arizona is a research facility, they could care less about instruction quality. Professors underpaid. Classes over crowded. Bad teaching. Do not try to go to class there if you're over 30, they don't like old people using the UofA facilities-i.e. registering for classes. THe community mostly cares about basketball wildcat games and their stupid tailgate parties.

What else? I will save this cuz Sperling is going to delete it.
I will keep coming back and reposting for each deletion.

Bottom line: IF you want to retire with money and be left alone in the sun, Tucson is ok.

If you want to work, raise a family (schools are rated worst in the nation), go to a quality University, seek good medical care, find another place cuz Tuson sucks.


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  5/4/2017
Bestplaces doesn't want u to know truth re Tucson
Previous negative posts on Tucson were deleted. Probably someone in their corrupt City Gov. complained?

I lived there multiple years. It's like Mexico in that it has no standards, is corrupt and the rich overlord the working class and poor.

You are paid substandard wages and treated like cattle.

City courts system is a joke. Chief administrator for the City courts was fired several years ago for making up a resume filled with lies. Courts are run like cattle calls cuz they don't have enough money to hire staff. City prosecutors office inhabited by several Lesbians who hate men. Courts try to bluff you to get convictions even when they have no case. And no, I was not convicted of any crime there, but I can tell you the Courts there are corrupt as many of the police. Multiple serious convictions of cops when I was there-just the tip of the iceberg.

Police and Gov. officials on the take from local adult businesses and landlords.

This is the former long time home of Joseph Bonanno, mafia boss from Sicily and back East. His corrupt tentacles are still found in the City through mob defense attorneys.

Google it if you don't believe me, I speak the truth.

Gays are accorded special rights in Tucson. Right to flirt and caress at local YMCA saunas. If you say anything against homosexuals there, they will try to make your life hell. These are often sick people. It's not their sexuality, it's their psyches.

This post will be deleted because Sperling cannot stand up for free speech on the net.

Congressional representation when I was there was a joke. The whole town runs on the premise: money talks, bullshit walks-no sense of justice or fair play.

Landlords here are frequently slumlords-the City does little or NOTHING to protect residents from things like air conditioning out in 112 degree weather, etc,etc. City cops and gov. protect landlords because that is where the money comes from. Forget about poor, disabled, etc.

Little or no accomodation for disabled individuals, frequently the target of Federal complaints in this respect.

Hard to find a good doctor here, most are way past retirement and you may have to wait months to see a specialist. Hospitals suck--look up Medicare rankings of hospitals in Tucson. I believe there "University" hospital and TMC were poorly ranked-one or two stars as I recall.

Poor public parks and recreation facilities, bring your money for private facilities.

Now the good:

GOod weather if you like hot, dry summers and mild winters.
Rare is a snowfall or temps below freezing.

Lots of sunshine-beware skin cancer.

Lots of good grocery stores and competition among them, but used to be a cheap town, no more, prices rising all the time.

Lots of health clubs, most are dirty and not any good.
Tucson Raquet Club is ok.

City is spread out, so look for long commutes.

Crime is through the roof, lots of meth and drug activity, choose your neighborhood carefully.

Air is getting bad, starting to see haze over mountains when I left.

Most public cultural activites are anti-white people, geared toward beaners mostly. You will feel like your a minority at these events. I do not mean you will be mistreated, just you will feel you don't belong unless your Hispanic, speak Spanish, etc.

Their library system was pretty good until they started requiring ids to use the computers so they can spy, track you.

University of Arizona is a research facility, they could care less about instruction quality. Professors underpaid. Classes over crowded. Bad teaching. Do not try to go to class there if you're over 30, they don't like old people using the UofA facilities-i.e. registering for classes. THe community mostly cares about basketball wildcat games and their stupid tailgate parties.

What else? I will save this cuz Sperling is going to delete it.
I will keep coming back and reposting for each deletion.

Bottom line: IF you want to retire with money and be left alone in the sun, Tucson is ok.

If you want to work, raise a family (schools are rated worst in the nation), go to a quality University, seek good medical care, find another place cuz Tuson sucks.


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  4/17/2017
Do Not Move Here
I moved here about 20 years ago and have not been able to leave even though I think about it every day. It's an awful place. The long summers will kill you, it's a low-paying town where you had better speak Spanish to get even a decent call center job, the traffic has become horrible, and the gang and drug problems are spreading. Much of the town looks like a third-world country with falling down houses.

Yes, it's a nice place to retire if you have money and can get away during the 6+ beastly hot months. It's a place where people come who have already made their fortune. You won't make it here.

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  4/1/2017
Not a good place to live!
I left Tucson and moved far away! If you have alot of money and can afford to live in the richer nicer homes on the North end of Tucson you will probably love it and do well, otherwise I would avoid this place like the plague. Some places are so ran down, you would think slum Lords own them, there are alot of places like that here. The city will not do anything, as there are no real laws to protect renters. The Tucson VA is crap, and attempting to find quality medical care elsewhere is equally as bad, again unless you have money. To say drug use is rampant is an understatement, and I am not talking about weed- which is legal here if you have a mmj card. I am talking about meth, heroin, crack, etc. There is an extremely large homeless population here the base of which is centered downtown around the library, homeless shelters are extremely over taxed and can't handle the numbers so they have homeless camps, alot of the people have mental issues combined with drug abuse.

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  3/24/2017
No Vision and No Resources to Create One
Tucson is such a disappointment because it could be so much more. It wants to see itself as the next Austin or Portland but it is not even on par with Tulsa or Topeka. In 2015 Wallethub survey of the largest 150 US cities, it was rated as the least recession recovered. Tucson's roads were considered the worst in the West and some of the worst in the nation. There is also very little code enforcement or money to hire new enforcers so as the recession wore on and on here, neighborhoods just got worse. Most of the city housing stock is in deplorable condition and needs to be bulldozed. It's not even like it's that old or just in bad shape. There's nothing redeemable architecturally or otherwise about most of the housing or buildings here. The city turned a blind eye and allowed anything 'cheap' to go in and now that's what it is left with. There's little reason for many people to keep their property values up because the surrounding areas are still in decay or not worth redeeming. Tucson has become the poor child in the state, maybe in part because of it's proximity to the border and all of the issues with immigration. Perhaps Tucson should be considered a border city and will continued to be plagued by border city problems. What I can see after many years here is that that is no vision, no unifying vision that brings anything together in a way that is sustainable and shows promise. It's hollow talk. I think Tucson has fallen into a state of inertia where it just can't get up and really get going and stay going. It's adrift. Rio Nuevo was an attempt by the city to start tackling problems downtown and go area by area to create a vibrant urban core but when that imploded, they just let things go adrift. There was no Plan B.The politicians and the city will tell you that it's coming back but the comeback is paltry compared to what was lost and what is going on in Phoenix, Prescott, Sedona, and Flagstaff. Tucson is really falling off the map. If all you want is a cheap place to live in the Southwest, this may do it for you. But if you really want a vibrant scene, you won't find it here.

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  3/23/2017
Sad downfall of a city.
I have lived here all my life. I am quite young, so I don't have the same insight as some older people, but to me, Tucson has always been an economically depressed town, and I realized quickly I would never be able to have a future here. Tucson is definitely a classist city, without a doubt - you have your rich oldies and northerners who move here for the ridiculously low cost of living, and then you have the actual native Tucson residents who seem to live in abject poverty with no hope of escape.

There are wealthy neighborhoods next to trailer parks. There are no good schools, other than the ones outside city limits, and one private high school. The mentality here is very interesting, I have never met anyone (other than my classmates at private school) who seemed interested in what the world had to offer and were happy living in cockroach infested apartments and trailer parks, leaching off meager government benefits. People are here laid back, too laid back if you ask me. There is no reason to be living in third world poverty when we live in America.

There are no good paying jobs here outside of the AF base, hospital, university, or Raytheon. Without Davis Monthan and the university, this place would have died years ago. If you have money, you will have an amazing life here - the golf courses and the houses in the Foothills are to die for, and you can escape the heat in the summer. But the rest of us can't even seem to scrape by, it seems.

The education here is dismal. It won't even prepare you for the next level, and people here may as well be illiterate. I have had the unique opportunity to travel around the country as well as abroad, and now that I know what is out there, I refuse to stay in a city that will not acknowledge my intelligence or get with the times.

You will often get your staunch Tucson defenders, pretty evident in this review thread. Ignore them. They are a large part of the problem. There is nothing to defend other than the cost of living. Crime is also a huge problem here, and the city seems to be hooked on meth. Every corner will have a homeless beggar, or multiple.

Tucson used to have potential, but alas, when an entire city seems to not care about its sad conditions, not much can be done to change it. That is why U of A grads leave the city in droves for jobs. Do not move here. Look at it on a post card and be glad you weren't subjected to this sort of life.

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  3/11/2017
Tucson,AZ and lousy website
B4 I write a long diatribe, your registration and posting procedure is very flakey, so is this even working?

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  3/11/2017
Tucson,AZ and lousy website
B4 I write a long diatribe, your registration and posting procedure is very flakey, so is this even working?

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  11/24/2016
Area is Deceptive; Looks Healthier Than It Really
Many people who come to Tucson see the big homes in the foothills and mountains around Tucson and think that the area is doing well. After all, when we see wealth like that, we assume that it is reflected by the local economy and says a lot about the city itself. Well, Tucson defies the norms. It is not a normal city. Many of the big beautiful homes and spectacular views that one sees are no reflection of the city and its economic health. While there are a lot of them, these homes mostly belong wealthy retirees who contribute little in the way of taxes or an economic base or are second homes for Snow Birds (winter residents). The property taxes that these homes generate don't even benefit Tucson for the most part but stay up in Phoenix. SO DON'T JUDGE TUCSON'S HEALTH BY THE MANSIONS SURROUNDING THE CITY. They are in their own little world.

Tucson is not run by professional politicians. It is run by mostly nice people, yes, but not very aggressive or assertive politicians who can take the bull by the horns (so to speak) and get things pushed through. They are amateurs. Thus, Tucson lags the rest of the state in rebounding from the Great Recession, if indeed it has rebounded at all. The city likes to throw statistics at you about how it is coming back but the rebound is paltry compared to what needs to happen and in comparison to other Sunbelt cities. Tucson's politicians are all homegrown, which is part of the problem.

I get no pleasure out of saying this because this really is a nice place with great potential but also a place that continues and continues and continues to disappoint. Get the point. In short, Tucson is still a Cowtown, run like a cowtown, falling apart like a cowtown, surround by rich people in the foothills who have nothing to do with the city and who could care less. Tucson is a poor city, with poor economic prospects, with poor wages and worker conditions. Add to it that it's a very backward and Red State that puts all its money in its capital, Phoenix and surrounds, and things don't look good for the ole' Pueblo.

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  11/21/2016
Warning - Cowtown Camouflaged as Up and Coming Cit
Tucson is still in the Great Recession / Depression that started in 2008. Home prices have gone nowhere for the most part and the city has fallen apart. It can't afford to even keep up its streets. Empty store fronts everywhere and major thoroughfares look terrible. Not ever a professional city and what was on its way up is still heading down, as other Sunbelt cities get their acts together. Tucson shouldn't even be there. There is no industry, no economy - just a university and an air force base. If you are thinking about moving here, you really should think twice. Most of us who are stuck here who can't sell our still underwater homes can't get out.

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  10/25/2016
Stupid Tucson - Caught with its pants down
Tucson has had how many years to figure itself out and get itself on the right track or any sort of track? Something like 300 years, right? Tucson is one of the oldest, continuously inhabited cities in the country. This may be an old city but is also the most clueless and backwards place you'll ever live. It goes beyond ignorance. Tucson has fallen behind if not fallen out of the race completely because it hasn’t wanted to change and grow. For years, it has shun growth and now no one wants it. There are too many other cities who got their acts together. Yes, it’s that simple. Yet, Tucson remains arrogant in its ignorance. It just assumed growth would happen anyway, so it didn’t plan or prepare, it didn’t fill city hall with professionals who knew what they were doing, it didn’t feel there was any need to jump out in front and steer the ship… So, now it’s caught completely by surprise, like the emperor without his clothes, when the music stopped. And now Tucson finds that nobody wants it. Now, when Tucson most needs it, it can’t rally, change and grow. It is being taken for the joke that it is as it risks irrelevance in the 21st Century. I doubt Tucson will remain in the top 150 cities much longer. There in no economy here. Large companies have all gone elsewhere. Shame on Tucson. Shame on the citizenry of Tucson who have let this city become the mess that it is. This place is only good for those who isolate, for the dying and vultures who want views. Cheapest real estate in the Southwest now that it has fallen completely through the cracks and can't come back. In fact, almost the cheapest and worst kept housing stock in the country. The place is diseased.

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  10/15/2016
Anti-Growth & Anti-Jobs
Tucson's problem and the reason that it will not be on anyone's 'places to be list' for decades is that it has shunned growth and jobs for so long that it will take decades to recover what it lost in the housing bust and great recession. They won't tell you this here but there's not going to be any recovery or much of anything you can measure, just a slow slog out of the mire...a mire of its own making. It's depressing and it should be depressing for anyone who had investments here. Five to six years after the trough, just about every other Western Sunbelt city has come roaring back and then some - except for Tucson. Phoenix is going gangbusters. You can't find property in Flagstaff. Prescott has come back. Tucson just never got its act together; they took growth for granted. They didn't work with neighboring cities, town, and counties to come up with coordinated plans for smart growth. They didn't market the city to businesses or seek to diversify their employer base. How long have we had the big four - the U of A, Raytheon, DMAFB, and hospitals/healthcare? We lost commercial and residential construction so no longer have the big five. I would say that this city has another 15 years or so to go before it reaches the level of excitement or housing prices before the big bust. By then, every other decent city in the nation will be comparatively far out of reach.

Tucson sealed its fate after years of sticking its head in the sand. It's not coming back. This is not a city for anyone who wants a healthy or thriving economy or social scene. It's so behind the times, you can smell the decay and rot in the air here. Short of Miami and South Florida going under water, Tucson will not be anyone's radar any time soon.

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  10/6/2016
Slowest Moving and Acting City
Tucson is slow to move and act on just about everything, which will drive even the most patient of people mad. In Phoenix, Tucson is known as Hokey-Pokey Tucson and now I know why. They can't or won't (or just don't) fill city offices, so things don't get done or done well. They wait until things are at crisis proportions before they act. This is not a rising star of a city by any means but one whose luster is tarnished from years of neglect and uninspired leadership. They've had their wake-up call and are too deaf to hear it. Neighborhoods for the most part are deplorable with little in the way of uniform rules & regs in place for parking, architectural changes, colors, maintenance, etc. It's an Out-of-Control city that never recovered from the housing recession and doesn't look like it's heading anywhere good soon.

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  10/5/2016
Agree with Criticisms about Tucson - Most Inept Lo
Haved lived in Tucson on and off for 50 years. The place is still the same do-nothing, going-nowhere cowtown that it always was. Am always thrilled when my job allows me to move somewhere that has some life and energy to it. The next move will be outta here for good. Nice people but but the town is in a permanent rut, lots of poverty, horrible neighborhoods with jumbled up infill housing, and a lot of junk homes. The city does nothing. It's either corrupt or permanently incompetent. The city council does nothing. The place is rotting and nature allowed to run its course. Not a place for anyone who wants a social life or culture. Best thing about Tucson is that Phoenix is 100 miles north.

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  10/2/2016
Problems with Tucson are CULTURAL and deeply embed
Tucson should rank high on Sperling's "Most Disappointing and Wasted Potential" cities list. After having lived in various places in Arizona and the West for 50 years, Tucson is the most "Stuck-in-the-Mud" and oblivious places that 'could've been, would've been but probably never will be' in the West. There are three types of people who dominate the area (1) people who come here to retire and die; (2) students who leave as soon as they graduate because the city has nothing to offer them; and (3) people who can't afford to live anywhere else. Tucson has its devotees as well. The weather is pretty nice for the most part and the mountain views and drives if you can afford to live in the Foothills are spectacular. However, it's a love/hate. What good is a view and a pretty drive if the city is stuck in neutral? Don't expect change here. Don't expect a vibe here. Don't expect to be excited here. Tucson doesn't want change. Tucson resists change. The culture here is hands-off, laissez-faire, Libertarian, a little red-neck and anything goes - which is why most of the city, its infrastructure and it's neighborhoods have been rotting to the ground. From what I've seen the past 15 years here, Tucson wouldn't know how to begin promoting itself and doesn't have what it takes culturally to turn itself around. It really needs an influx of new professional talent and leadership from outside instead of this homegrown group that keep perpetuating the same ole cultural malaise.

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