Review of Irvine, California


Irvine appears nice, but under the surface.......
Star Rating - 4/26/2019
Lived in Irvine off and on for 25 years. Density and traffic have become as undesirable as LA was in the 90s. The city times the traffic lights so drivers hit almost all red lights, no matter what street or time of day.

Much is said about how Asian it is, but that is too much of a generalization. There are a substantial number of Chinese-born residents, students, and workers. Especially since UCI has courted that demographic since the early 80s. The honest observation is that many (not all) Chinese-born residents are not very friendly, drive/walk slow, will cut in lines in front of others, speak little English, and are known to cheat in school regularly. Numerous birther houses in Irvine. Some of the driving is truly atrocious. Many work loosely or more formally for the Chinese Communist party to disclose information about Americans, tech, etc. Stealing and deception are accepted priorities in their culture.

Although American culture has many commonalities with European and South American countries, there is almost nothing in common with China. The children of Chinese-born parents sometimes struggle to be American while growing up with Chinese parents, but many do so successfully in Irvine.

These cultural distinctions are very different than Vietnamese, Japanese, or other Asians. Irvine’s culture is increasingly dominated by China, so other Asians, whites, blacks, Hispanics, and others are taking a back seat. It will one day become a Chinese outpost with 90%+ Chinese. So, if you don’t like the Chinese culture, you won’t like Irvine.

The problem with Irvine is the Irvine Company. They own most of the apartment complexes, office buildings, and sell land to home builders. And they are the devil personified. At best, like the Mafia. They are heavy-handed, controlling, unethical, and control both the city planning department and city council. Diabolical is another accurate word. Although many longtime residents are familiar with The Irvine Company’s antics, the company manages to keep a low profile and the media stays away from them. (They will undoubtedly have this posting erased and my body will never be found….)

If you have a reason to live in Irvine, try not to rent from them or work for a company that is in one of their buildings. I am pro-capitalist, but they are horrendous and all the executives should be in jail. They treat residents and workers with disdain, all while feigning the smile of a Cheshire cat. They will raise your rent relentlessly, sue you for small matters, and lie about anything. They hire actors and actresses to testify in court proceedings about tenants and vendors, and at city meetings. I could go on and on, but avoid if at all possible.

Aesthetically, the entire city is bland. Density is becoming insane as massive apartment projects are built – these “rabbit warrens” have little to no appeal to most people, but millennials seem to sign up as renters. The Irvine Company controls most architecture and it shows. Some people find the homogeny welcoming, but most do not. There are many neighborhoods, especially of new homes, that are 100% Chinese. The Irvine Company sells this land, much of which is contaminated, but the buyers do not know the extent of contamination, and the city is ignorant or paid off. The Irvine Company even allowed a subdivision to be built on a former Native American burial ground, and they bought off the consultants to keep quiet.

So if you like high prices, congestion, and living under Mafia control, move to Irvine. But for most people, you’re better off in other cities/communities in South Orange County, Tustin, or beach areas like Newport or Huntington.

Brianna | Irvine, CA
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Paying 2600$ for an apartment is not that bad, why do you predict the Chinese population in Irvine will be 90%+, it doesn't make sense. It is just because some Chinese move in and get your work? The city planning is wise, the environment here is great, the quality education is good and the neighborhood is nice. You are a person who likes to think about the super extreme results but have you ever thought what you predict is inaccurate? For Irvine, You can buy a 2 million house here and enjoy the slow pace here, this place is definitely a place to chill after you retire, if you want to make a lot of money? Go to LA.
chen | Irvine, CA

To the last guy can we cut the sjw libtard bullshit ? ffs he even said not all Chinese are like that. But that still isn’t good enough for you because people like you can only understand black and white and are incapable of understanding a grey area. You only want positive report on the Chinese in Irvine. The Chinese are basically free of any valid negative criticism according to your standards simply because they are a race that isn’t white. You’re sjw antics disgust me .But let me tell you something you delusion clown the Chinese in Irvine are racist and rude. Even my Chinese friends from San Jose know this. Chinese from Irvine are notoriously rude and racist. If you don’t acknowledge this you are either a very ignorant or have never lived in Irvine. You can’t keep using the same stupid anti stereotype standard. It’s so obvious you know nothing about Chinese culture and is just some delusional leftist
Henry | Irvine, CA

To the last guy can we cut the sjw libtard bullshit ? ffs he even said not all Chinese are like that. But that still isn’t good enough for you because people like you can only understand black and white and are incapable of understanding a grey area. You only want positive report on the Chinese in Irvine. The Chinese are basically free of any valid negative criticism according to your standards simply because they are a race that isn’t white. You’re sjw antics disgust me .But let me tell you something you delusion clown the Chinese in Irvine are racist and rude. Even my Chinese friends from San Jose know this. Chinese from Irvine are notoriously rude and racist. If you don’t acknowledge this you are either a very ignorant or have never lived in Irvine. You can’t keep using the same stupid anti stereotype standard. It’s so obvious you know nothing about Chinese culture and is just some delusional leftist
Henry | Irvine, CA

@yoyo you literally gave the Chinese an excuse for all of their bad behavior and didn’t let them take reponsibility for any of their wrong doings. Do you not see how you are basically borderline narcissistic ? On and the stupid bs such as “it’s there culture and they are still adapting to america. First of all they know what they are doing is bad second of all if it’s their first time coming to America they should understand basic etiquette of the country. I know if someone from America pulled some impolite shit in China you bet you’re ass you say some stupid shit like “you should’ve understood Chinese etiquette before going to China. But nope you pick and choose standards of judgement to fit your own racist libtard narrative. Finally the Chinese in Irvine wont change. First because why should they when the majority of Irvine is Chinese it’s almost like trhey didn’t move out of China. Second most of those Chinese go back to Chinese frequently . I’d go as far to say all Chinese immigrants have no interest in assimilating and they don’t have to either it’s their choice I’m just saying. The divide between American Chinese and Chinese immigrants in high schools is evident enough. Outliers don’t justify anything either before you say I saw a American Chinese with a immigrant Chinese being friends as if that means anything lol
Henry | Irvine, CA

Sure there are a lot of Asians in Irvine but they are not ALL Chinese, mainland or otherwise. Seriously, look up the city census. There are also quite a bit of South Asians, Middle Easterners, Eastern Europeans, Southeast Asians, etc. etc. in Irvine. I feel compelled to make a rebuttal. This is a divisive and hurtful post - the OP is making some huge claims based on one or two kernels of truth, and morphed it to suit their own prejudices and anger. Are there a lot of Mainland Chinese in Irvine? Quite famously so. Still they are not even close to being the majority since 1. the majority of Irvine is white (again, refer to census data, not the ramblings of a begrudged lady) 2. the makeup of the ethnic Chinese population in the US is very diverse, complex and is not ALL Mainland Chinese. But I can't expect someone who colors the judgement of other people with their own personal prejudices to do much other than to jump to hyperbolic conclusions that fit their narrow worldview. Still though, stereotypes come from somewhere - do the Mainland Chinese drive poorly? Sometimes. It's generally because some of them have never driven before because they don't have to in China. Ones who drive tend to drive in cities. City drivers never have a good reputation (ie. New York City drivers). Also driving poorly is kind of a proud hallmark of Southern California. Do the Mainland Chinese cut in line? Sometimes. It was particularly bad a few years ago but I think they generally gotten the message. You can't expect people from other culture to immediately adapt to another culture with no transition. Do Mainland Chinese speak English poorly? Quite often, but not always. They literally just arrived in the US a few years ago. Again, this is an issue time will solve. Foreign Chinese (and other countries') students are not a problem, they will go back to their country. It's not like college towns don't have college towns problem, no matter what race, ethnicity, or culture of students that attend the university. Are there espionage in Irvine? Grey area. The Chinese government is known to operate social and cultural clubs to "encourage" "good" behavior among overseas Chinese people. They do definitely exist in Irvine. However, know that a lot of Chinese in America are not fans of the Chinese government. In fact, some come here to escape China. These clubs are instructed to monitor "dissident" Chinese people. They are a problem, but generally operate within the legal realm of the USA. Although for the extra-paranoid, a phone call to the FBI reporting any suspicious individual is always a solution. If it's suspicious enough, inform authorities, or even inform your local congressional representatives, don't post it on bestplaces.net Vietnamnese people are used as a juxtaposition to the Chinese. I see the reviewer has never been to Garden Grove, when some pho establishments are not very English fluent. It is clear that the reviewer has deep seated angst against Chinese people. The "traits" mentioned are not particularly confined to Chinese people - they are generalized immigrants traits. These are common complaints launched against Hispanic immigrants, Vietnamnese immigrants, Irish Catholics, Italians, Japanese, German immigrants if you go through the annals of America's history. Also to mention, White expatriates in East and Southeast Asia are famously stereotyped for never learning the language or acclimating to the culture of the countries they choose to reside in. Again, immigrant problems are real. They are often solvable with community effort. Racist provocations and drawing divisive, hyperbolic conclusions are unnecessary. There is some truth to the complaints about the Irvine Company. Remember this is a "master-planned" community. It was intended to be an evolved suburb, a suburb 2.0, planned almost too meticulously so. The Irvine Company does have a lot of control over the city for a private company/land developer, and it rubs a lot Irvine citizens in the wrong way, rightfully so. Again, I think time will resolve this problem. The over-planning seems rampant, but a lot of cities start of with central planning. The inhabitants, slowly over time, turn the city into their own. There are many problems in any city and Irvine is not exempt. It's not a perfect utopia and we have a lot to work on. Instead of being divisive, whiny, and telling people to move to what is not-so-subtly more White areas ("beach areas like Newport or Huntington"), I think we should strive to address real problems and not confuse deeply personal ones with the community's problems. Save the personal problems for your therapist.
yoyo | Irvine, CA
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