I will Always Have Love For My Hometown - 3/29/2023

I've lived in Syracuse, NY my entire life. The majority of my family and friends are from here as well. I love the Syracuse sports teams and have done so since I was a young child. I received my education from the best teachers in the Syracuse School District during the school year and enjoyed summer afternoons attending the Boys and Girls Clubs. I briefly attended Onondaga Community College and had the honor of being a part of the first group of students to live on campus. I was raised in the church so I often spent Sunday mornings in worship and afternoons at Ponderosa or Old Country Buffet with loved ones. I played Pop Warner football for The Valley Stallions for a couple of years and played in a Championship one year at P&C Stadium. I played in the CYO basketball league and won MVP my first year playing for St. Mathews. I played in the YEOP basketball league as well as the Donnie Fielders. I've performed in talent shows singing in front of large crowds since I was around 6. I enjoyed hanging out at the Carousel Mall, and attending different skating rinks and bowling alleys growing up. On weekends I liked going out to different bars and nightclubs as an adult. I've hosted Superbowl parties and attended countless cookouts and get-togethers. My first job was at Dunkin Donuts as a teenager. All of my children were born here. I will always have love for my hometown. I will always remember the good times.

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Honest, local, and fair review - 9/29/2021

I was born 30 miles from Syracuse,, moved away to travel all over the USA, living in about 8 different cities, then came to live in Syracuse, NY. I have been here for 20 years now. I raised 4 children here, most of whom are adults (who still live here). I think many reviewers of Syracuse on this page are either inexperienced with the rest of America and think the grass must be greener, have an axe to grind (e.g., the "Syracuse is anti-Business" comment), or lack a healthy perspective on all of the different, important facets of what makes a city good or bad to live in. I also think the Best Places site the site giving Syracuse Metro housing a "58" vs "100" for the rest of the USA makes no sense. Here's what's good: *Great Hospitals (Upstate, Crouse, St Joe's, etc) all over the place. *Great Universities (Syracuse University, LeMoyne, Colgate, even Cornell if you're willing to drive an hour + OCC a large, well funded Community College) make education great. Add in the fact that students attending Syracuse schools get FREE college tuition at all the above-mentioned colleges rounds out the education picture. *Economy INSIDE of Syracuse is pretty rough, BUT ... the suburbs such as Dewitt (basically a section of Syracuse), Fayetteville, Manlius, Camillus, Cicero, and etc are very prosperous with extremely high-paying jobs available. Steel, Telecom, Engineering, Aerospace, Defense, Amazon/Lockheed Martin, Medical & Insurance, IT, etc .. companies from all over the world have offices in the larger Metro area. All of these suburbs are less than 20 mins away from downtown Syracuse, so ... I think saying it's a "poor city" implies something that is inaccurate. There are lots of people here who work in services and for low wages - but at the same time companies are begging for skilled workers in IT, Engineering, Medicine, and etc ... so you figure that part out. The first job I ever got in Syracuse paid me between 100k. I know dozens of others who live extremely well here. *Crime - I live actually inside of Syracuse city limits. The "hood" is just 6 blocks from my house. I have never see a crime in my neighborhood, never so much as even a package taken from my porch. I walk around at night. It's quiet. It's clean. People mow their lawns and pick up their trash. In truth, all the crime and blight is located in a few condensed neighborhoods. Avoid living in those areas. The statistics are misleading because the crime is not spread out evenly across the city. Crime maps are available, published by the Syracuse police department. Large swaths of the city are green. *Parks, green spaces - Syracuse has the historic Erie canal (now basically a 100-mile forest walking path), huge parks for biking and boating, lakes you can swim in with beaches and ice cream stands. There is a bike path that runs the length of the city to the suburbs. There are green spaces in every neighborhood, well maintained, clean. The air is clean. Forest is everywhere. *Infrastructure - Syracuse infrastructure needs an overhaul - and it is getting it. The gov't just funded a 2.2 BILLION dollar overhaul of the entire downtown area. It's called the Syracuse Community Grid - look it up and see the models. This project has already started construction and should be completed by 2024. The rest of the city is reasonable, except in the very poorest areas. *The weather - well, Syracuse has lots of rain and lots of snow. If you don't like snow, don't move here - we are the snowiest major city in the country. On other hand, I happen to really like snow, even deep snow. It's charming and mystical. All you really need is good snow tires and some warm clothes to get around in - and a snowblower is important, too. Even then, they start plowing the streets at 4am so it's kept under control. I think it's fine. I do dislike all the rain, however - that being said .. *Scientists believe Syracuse will be one of the best cities to live in during climate change. We will never have a shortage of water, no extreme weather (nor will we), lots of land, and the weather will just milder and milder as it warms. Look this up, it's interesting. *HOUSING* this is one of the best things about Syracuse. Housing is cheap-cheap-cheap, even in good neighborhoods. I bought my house for 75,000. It has 3 floors, 4 bedrooms and 2 baths. It has almost a full acre of land. Yeah I have improved it, but I happen to know this is about 1/3 the price people pay elsewhere. Cheap houses are all over the place. If you want a million dollar house, you will find one (tho that would be 3 million somewhere else, likely).. but if you want to live in a decent home for less than 100k, Syracuse is about as good as it gets. Also, if you want to buy some land and build your own ... there is tons of great, forested land for 1,000/acre. I am not kidding. And construction companies all over the place to help. The great housing situation in Syracuse leads to another thing I like about life here: *NO CROWDING - Syracuse has empty highways and rarely any significant traffic jams, even during rush hour. I never feel croweded when out shopping or eating (except for at Destiny USA mall, on weekends). I love the life without all the honking and sitting in endless traffic, as I experienced in other cities. *Government services - sorry complainers, but Syracuse does a good job. Streets are clean. Police are everywhere. Fire departments are super-well funded. Clinics and help for the poor are available. College is free if you attend inside the city (although the city schools range between terrible and mediocre). If you don't, the SUNY university system (very well-regarded) is among the best, and costs just 8k/year (yes, I said $8,000) to attend full time (tuition only). Power and service outages are rare (for me, just once in 20 years). The DMV isn't even crowded, and people pick up the phone if I call dog control or trash pickup. *The Entertainment scene - there are tons of nice places to eat, see, and enjoy. Lots of people from the suburbs drive into the city and waste tons of money on food and fun. There is an amazing mall here, 4th largest in the US, called Destiny USA - everything you have ever wanted to do is there - go carts, climbing, food and shopping, every great restaurant, even VR experiences and laser tag. ... what am I forgetting? What do I think is bad about the city? Well, some parts of the city are worn down looking. It's definitely post-industrial with empty warehouses and factories, but that's all the cities. The infrastructure is decaying (but again they are spending bilions on it this year and next). There could be MORE of the better-paying jobs, but then housing prices would go up and we'd be paying that to the landowners, so .. but still, I know some people would like for the going wages to be higher (especially for unskilled labor). Syracuse was recently voted one of the top places to raise a family (look that up, too). So, if you really want to live in a sleepy, cheap, clean, green city .. and you have the kind of skill-set that a company will pay you for (STEM, teaching, Medicine, the Trades (construction, electrician, mechanic, welder, etc), then Syracuse is for you. If you love the outdoors, Syracuse is for you. If you want to raise a family, Syracuse is great for you, too. If you like hustle and bustle (many people do), if you are sensitive to weather and temperature, or if you lack a marketable skill-set - Syracuse is NOT for you.

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Not a good place to raise a family - 7/19/2020

I’ll start by saying I’ve lived here my whole life. I have only lived here but can’t wait to move out. I’ll lay out some pros and cons. Pros: it has a decent downtown scene, some ok restaurants/dining and good (surrounding) falls for hiking and swimming. We have a true fall, with the leaves changing And scenically very pretty. But I feel the cons outweigh the good. Cons: it has a VERYY high a crime rate, I’m pretty sure we are the highest is the nation. It is not a place to raise a family, the city schools are absolutely terrible. I feel you can’t actually live in Syracuse because it’s a dump, you have to live in a surrounding town. The roads are HORRIBLE they are constantly doing construction on the streets and highways with zero improvement (you’ll need an alignment every few months). We have some of the worst taxes in the nation, I mean they are absurd. You can’t afford to buy a decent house because your taxes are more than your mortgage. On top of that the housing prices are outrageous for a decent home unless you want to be in a crap neighborhood. My family and I are avid travelers so I can say without a doubt we have some of the most unfriendly people around. I really could go on and on. The bottom line we are moving next year, it is a tough decision since our whole family is here but we just can’t take it any longer.

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Lovely Views/Harsh Winters - 7/18/2019

I live between Rochester and Syracuse and worked in Syracuse for several years. I'm currently finishing my Federal career in Washington, DC. That being said there are several things great about Syracuse and the Syracuse area. 1) Dougs Fish Fry in Skaneatles 2) Proximity to the Adirondacks and the Fingerlakes 3) The rich local history. Drawbacks 1) Weather 2) General feeling of the area being worn out and run down 3) Weather. I think that the weather is the most depressing thing about the area. I have horses and can't ride and condition my horses from Mid-November when hunting season starts until sometime in late March.

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Syracuse SURGE is REAL ! - 4/26/2019

Syracuse Surge is for Real! Hot city for START-UP COMPANIES, several downtown with a Tech Garden Hub. Forbes Magazine said " Syracuse is going through a Renaissance" Downtown living boosts a 99% occupancy rate with new loft condo's and apartments springing up in historic buildings. The City has seen a increase in core downtown living, businesses are booming. Armory Square is a hip lively neighborhood that rivals any big city. Inner Harbor is a new area that has new warehouse hotels and living on the cities cleaned up lake. Syracuse also has traditional neighborhoods like a Little Italy with great restaurants, TIP Hill ( Irish ) has the only stop light with green on top, University area that brings a youthful element. Check out the stately neighborhoods of Sedgwick Farms and Strathmore. Syracuse is a Great Sports Town! Yes the Orange-University is the big game, attendance leader for basketball annually. Besides d-1 NCAA sports in the Carrier Dome, Syracuse has AAA minor league baseball team ( The Mets ) who play on the north side and AHL Hockey Syracuse Crunch who pack the War memorial and have a strong fan base. Live theater and a Symphony round out the arts. Syracuse has a diverse economy now with high tech companies and the traditional big boys, Bristol Myers Squibb, Lock Head Martin, SAAB and Welch Allyn. The current Unemployment is 4.1 and the number of folks working has increased. The International airport was just remodeled and air traffic has increased 12% in last two years with direct flights to 24 cities. Easy to get to florida in the winter. Summers are the best with the Finger Lakes in your back yard. Great Local Foods, Wine and Craft Beer. Syracuse is also home to the NY State Fair, oldest in nation. If you are looking for a Real City that has turned the corner with a mix of middle America, Hip NY and College-Town, Check out the 'Cuse!

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It's "ok" to live in Syracuse - 1/8/2019

Another review for more living details Dining - there are a few good restaurants like everywhere else and there are many good Italian places. Other than that the quality of dining is below average especially Japanese restaurants way below average - 3 star Housing - Buying or renting is cheap but taxes are very high. It's hard to find new houses/apartments - 4 star Shopping - Destiny USA is the only places you can get what you want but no luxurious brands; Grocery shopping is good with big chains and local markets - 4 star Transportation - Assuming you have a car it's convenient to live here. For public systems, there is airport close to city and long existed trains/shuttles. Taxi is expensive - 3 star Entertainment - for me there are enough things to do (zoo, museums, shows, casinos, college sports, outdoor places, summer events) I don't get bored - 4 star Health Care - Hospitals are the major employers here and never complain about finding doctors - 4 star Education - as stated before education system is strong - 4 star Job Market - You're supposed to lower your expectation to get a job with low pay and limited function. If you have an advanced degree in technology or finance etc might feel disappointed - 2 star Weather - everybody has talked about this... - 1 star Based on weighted average the start would be 3, you can adjust the weights to get your score..

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Overall a nice place - 1/3/2019

I've lived here for 3 years and I like it most of time though hate it sometimes. It's a convenient city with a lot of things to do within driving distance. By 2 interstate highways and local roads, big mall, airport, hospitals, restaurants, schools and major business are all within 30 mins from even suburbs and there is canal and lakes around the city. The whole area is on Appalachian so you will see hills everywhere and during 4 seasons there are many beautiful views. Within hours there are more mountains and lakes such as famous Adirondack mountains, finger lakes, great lakes and big cities (NYC, Boston, Philadelphia, Montreal, Toronto...) and there are 2 big casinos near the city. You can explore the rest of upstate NY on weekends. We like to visit farms, orchards and wineries. Winter is nasty however they shovel snow fast and living in the snowiest city in US, people in Syracuse cherish their time and prepare well for the long winter. My major compliant would be the lack of sunshine and the old look of the city which makes me depressed sometimes. And long winter means for half of the year we can't do any outdoor activities, we don't ski or skate btw. The stats are not good, high tax, low income, increasing crime and reducing population while people know it and there are some initiatives to address those problems as far as I know. Though not as competitive as big cities, there are still many opportunities here for young professionals to get a decent job or start business. It's easy to buy a house here and there are many options for day cares and schools. There are a couple of celebrated colleges right in the city and one hour away is Cornell University. So, if you like a small city to raise family and don't mind cold weather and snow Syracuse is the place for you.

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The city needs some help - 6/23/2018

There are pros to living in the Syracuse area- the cost of living is relatively cheap (compared to the rest of the Northeast) although the sales and property taxes are very high. If you like winter sports like skiing and having access to beautiful lakes and mountains then you might like the Syracuse area. I also met some great people there and made some lifelong friends. There are some things to do, but not a lot. There are festivals in the spring and summer and Armory Square is nice but once winter comes along, unless you like being outdoors, you are pretty limited to the mall. It can be a nice place for the right person but for me and my family there were just too many cons. People say the winters aren't "that bad". No they really are that bad. The average yearly snowfall is about 120 inches- the average snowfall which means that some years have more and others have less. In the almost 10 years I lived there I think the lowest amount of snow was around 70 inches. The cold can be brutal, and sometimes for weeks on end (think Polar Vortex) and the lack of sun just makes for a very depressing winter. (With winter lasting 5-6 months there). Then the spring can bring a lot of rain, and again, no sun, sometimes for weeks. The economy is not doing well in Syracuse. It is quite difficult to find a job that isn't in the retail industry. Finally the crime: yes some people will say it is not that bad, and compared to some other cities around the country that is true. However for a city of its size, the amount of crime is high. After 9 years we decided Syracuse was definitely not for us and left for NC, never to look back. I do think with the right leadership, Syracuse has the potential to grow and improve.

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Not Bad at All - 8/20/2015

I'm a transplant from Los Angeles, CA. The housing prices are great, but there is not a lot going on in Syracuse. If you want a more "happening" city, you will need to pay the price. I was sick and tired of warm days all year long, and dumb apartment managers. Destiny USA is good, but one mall in a city is not enough. Shoppingtown is dying rapidly. Due to their size, Target, and Wal-Mart are both on the outer edges of the city. I steeled on my home at the end of January, just in time for the February snow, snow, snow; wow, lots of snow. The public library is adequate for most, and the health care could be better. There are not many doctors in this city. The Downtown farmers market is a nice treat each Tuesday, but the are only 4 food vendors. Even at the Park St. market, there are not a lot of vendors; why am I complaining? In Los Angeles, I always ate in the mall next door, rather in the markets--they had only a few as well. As a person who values education, Syracuse is not the "smartest" city. Although there is more than one college here, few attend. I think the crime rate is inaccurate, some crimes are not worthy of a report (some vandalism), and the officers do not take the time to write reports on all crime (I am a victim of this). Nevertheless, Syracuse is still a lot safer than Los Angeles. The University area seems to be the favorite child here. Services, restaurants, and an indoor strip mall are located there. If you're a cyclist, most of Syracuse, south of Erie Blvd., between Valley, and S. Salina is relatively flat.

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Born and raised here - 4/30/2015

Bad:Syracuse is a mediocre city at best. It just can't compete with any other city, of it's size, as it is slowly going bankrupt. The actual city is in debt and is totally reliant on state and county government to help it limp along. The crime rate is off the charts. School buses have to re-route to avoid being damaged by hurled bricks/rocks. The weather is absolutely great, for 2 months out of the year- July and August. Other than that, it is cloudy and raining. Syracuse ALWAYS wins the snowiest city (Golden Snow globe award), for the entire US. They got over 150 inches of snow this past winter. If you are looking for a good school, go outside the city. There ARE some great schools in the surrounding areas. However, the students run the show in the Syracuse city schools. Good: The summer and fall are mostly great. There are plenty of parks, hiking, swimming, lakes, hunting, sports, and fairs/festivals. Come to the NYS Fair at the end of August (through Labor Day) and you won't be disappointed. It is awesome. On a sour note: they are not doing big name music acts at the grandstand anymore. The county moved them down the road. What a rip off! Notice how the 'Bad' outweighs the 'Good'? I will be moving in a few short years. See ya Syracuse.

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Syracuse, NY - 2/16/2015

Syracuse, Aside from being the snowiest city in the North East has a divers culture and good schools for the most part. There are allot of recreation areas and travel in the area is fairly easy. Manufacturing in the area has been on the decline for many years and those types of positions are slim. The big draw is the NY State Fair and many other cultural events year round including one of the largest St Patrick Day events in the Country. If your not fond of winter and driving in the snow, then Syracuse is not the place to be in the winter!!

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Centrally Located - 2/2/2014

Syracuse is within a few hours drive of so many cities (Boston, NYC, Toronto) as well as the Adirondak National Park.

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CIty crime goes souburban - 5/23/2012

Help the suburbanites say, we now have crime in the suburbs. Well I say "PP PANTS"! You know what makes crime? Peoples natural nature to get frisky. We're all animals and we just want to skip, hop and jump. Many suburbanites are ex-city "offenders". You moved to the burbs for a "better life" but when you had kids you forget they have your genes and they want to pick up where you left off. One day soon the crime will go down in the burbs as the teen population matures. Then fast forward to the teen years of their future offspring and yup you got it. We're back in the saddle again. Yee Ha!

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Amazing place - 3/15/2012

So after reading all these comments, I'm deducting that most of you live in the downtown area. I'm a 20 year old who has grown up in the outskirts of syracuse (onondaga hill) and I definitely disagree with a lot of things said on here. It is very true that Syracuse is known for a rediculous amount of snow, crime in the inner city, and a downtrodden downtown area. That does NOT mean that its a bad place to live! I have lived there my WHOLE life and been to the actual downtown area maybe 5-10 times total. Syracuse's greater/metro area is MASSIVE. There are sooo many things to do with just a 10 min car drive. Sure, the heart (and I mean heart) of downtown is a little past its prime, but thats about 0.1% of the total area of syracuse itself. So, coming from a pure native, come to syracuse, explore, and have the best life you can ask for. I live in NC now and I MISS SYRACUSE! Thats coming from a person who sees no snow and no crime year round!!

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Last one out of Syracuse,turn out the Lights - 8/4/2011

My entire family and I have lived in Syracuse all our lives . I am still here ONLY because it lends me the ability to spend time with my nieces and my extended family . I am fortunate enough to own my small but successful festival vending business which does 100% of its sales OUTSIDE of the over taxed ,pathetic basket case economy of Syracuse & new York State. My friends and I always refer to living in Syracuse,NY as living in SEWERCUSE. Living here is like living in the gutter . Most of the city is a crime ridden Ghetto with no job opportunities to be had regardless of your level of schooling... I own a 2 family house here bought a few years ago for $38,000....Thats right folks ! $38 grand gets you a house that will never go up in price..For this the City of Sewercuse and the rats that run it charge me $4100 per year in property taxes ! I gave up trying to rent the upstairs apartment after getting nearly killed by my crack head tenants who like many other welfare recipients was getting $1800 per month to sit home and do nothing(with my tax money).....but thats Sewercuse for you,as the only jobs here are working crap wages for the state or exercising those legs to walk in and get a check from the welfare office in a Downtown.....which I should add is absolutely vacant (warren street)...Yeah,they all moved away and the main drag downtown is all boarded up.....I remember when I was a kid how beautiful it once was 30 years ago . But that was before they moved all the jobs & economy to china and mexico. There really is NOTHING to do here except get drunk,watch TV and wait to die....slowly of boredom and poverty. I will be leaving next spring for a new home in texas and just about everybody I know has told me they wish they could escape this rat hole with me. After 42 years ,I have had it with this dead end town that's lost it all long ago . Texas,here I come and the following year my family may follow me.......All I can say is don't come here unless you enjoy ,long freezing winters,high crime, boredom and the deadened rust belt - pipe dream that Syracuse has become ...Last one out of this toilet,turn out the lights !

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Syracuse Area - 4/24/2011

Great place to raise a family

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Great place! - 4/15/2011

Here's the thing about Syracuse, the people who grew up here and remember the industrial glory days tend to have a very negative attitude about this city and region. As someone who grew up in Pennsylvania and has lived in Virginia and Connecticut before settling here, I can tell you Syracuse has grown on me. There are great companies and opportunities here if you have a college education in the right field. This city is clearly transforming into a white collar city, which is what makes the blue collar natives furious I think. For a city it's size, there's great theater and restaurants. Shopping options are improving. The airport is so easy to get in and out of and less than 5 minutes from the city center. Day trips to the Adirondacks or Finger Lakes are great in the summer (all seasons, for that matter). The winters are long...no denying that..but most of us embrace it. The best part is you learn to cherish every spring, summer and fall. I've never appreciated seasons as much as I do here. So, welcome all newcomers!!! I think you'll Syracuse can make anyone feel at home.

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Don't Believe the Cranks - 7/10/2010

Silly crazies like that should really just move. Very little of what "K" says is true. If you have a skill and a college degree this is a great town, plus all the little surrounding villages are great. It's an amazing place to raise a family. I've lived in Henderson, NV; Clarksville, TN; and am originally from Los Angeles CA. Believe me when I tell you, this is a great place. The 4 seasons, especially fall are gorgeous, and if you like winter sports this place is just awsome. The funny thing about CNY is that most of the people that love it actually have moved here from other places and really appreciate it. The people that hate it usually have never been anywhere else. Read into that what you will.

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Pros & Cons of Living in CNY - 12/6/2009

I grew up in CNY, then moved away and stayed away for 33 years. I moved back with my family a few years ago. Having come from Washington, DC and abroad, we found the Midwest-style friendliness of people here refreshing. Also, you won't find more polite drivers; a traffic jam is a rarity. For nature-lovers and sports entusiasts, Upstate NY can hold its own with almost any other region. The air is clean; lakes and streams are abundant. Finally, CNY's proximity to Canadian cities as well as places like Boston and NYC makes for plenty of fun getaways. The cons, however, are equally weighty, if not moreso. NY's long dysfunctional political system has given us the highest combined taxes in the country as well as very high energy costs. The punishing and rising property taxes alone are driving tens of thousands from the region. This and the lack of jobs (even in good economic times) cause Upstate NY and Syracuse to actually depopulate. At over 216,000 some 30-40 years ago, Syracuse is now at 139,500. The out-migration of people from the region, in fact, gives it somehting in common with N. Dakota. The very low housing prices must be seen in context with the onerous property taxes. Most cities and towns here have a rundown feel to them; and the more rural locales resemble any down-and-out holler in Appalachia. While indeed friendly, people generally are very parochial and oblivious to the outside world. Politically, this is Red State America -- though still fairly centrist. The region does not attract immigrants, nor the "creative class," as defined by Richard Florida. Diversity is fairly lacking, though Syracuse does have a sizable, though quite poor, black population. Cultural outlets and good restaurants are very limited. Finally, the weather can be very depressing, with cloud cover and precipation matching those of the Pacific NW and snowfall being the heaviest in the lower 48. The high taxes and related imposts and the perennially depressed economy are compelling us to seek to move to a more dynamic and affordable state.

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Don't move here unless you are ready to retire... - 11/8/2009

Syracuse is a place for retirees to volunteer,stay at home and wait for death... It's cold from the end of September to May. It's depressing with all the abandoned and brown toned buildings. Downtown has no cheap parking. Our governor (wich was not even elected, but appointed) is milking the hell out of us in taxes and fees. There is nothing coming thru here culturally and when we get something we HAVE to go to one of our ugly, beat down theater or crappy centers, and pay ridiculous prices to make up the fact that only a few people will go. The city is putting ALL the eggs in a SUPER mall that is suppost to be build "soon", but the project has been in the works for DECADES.In the meantime the malls are losing tenants. We have a few universities, but if you ask the students maybe a handful stay, out of graduating classes of thousands. The students are always getting in trouble, drinking and drugging because there is only a few things for them to do. The city and county have parks but only 10 or so are pet friendly. The lakes are some of the most polluted in the USA. There is HIGH crime in every Side of the city, I mean North, South, East and West rundown drug infected areas. Downtown has bus stop, a Rescue Mission and a YMCA right in the heart of Downtown that keeps all the homeless, crackheads and undesirables walking all day downtown so don't think that in a beautiful summer day u csn hang out and have lunch downtown. The politicians take positions to basically get the only few good paying jobs, they don't give a crap about the city. I feel a hostage here, I didn't know what seasonal depression was until I got here. I have three years left and sometimes I wish I could abandon everything and just drive...

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