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Could have been the perfect place - 10/5/2007
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Christelle
Stamford, CT

I've been living in Stamford for the past 12 years and made only one mistake: not buying a house when they were $200K. You won't be able to find a decent place for under $600K today.

This being said, it's a great place to live.

The people: Many of us are not "new rich", only old poor who decided to stay, even after the price hike, because we had made a life here. There's a decent Spanish and Eastern European population. Some of teh black population moved North when prices started climbing. Two neighborhoods remain predominantly black. There are only 3 kinds of people in Stamford:

1)Rich people who don't think twice before buying a 2 million house on the water or in the country side.

2) Middle class people who spend every penny they have in expensive middle class houses.

3) Subsidized people who will eventually manage to save enough money to buy a nice house somewhere else.

The activities: For all tastes. Culture, sports, nature. The city goes to great lengths to make acticities accessible to all. Not too many parks though. The few beaches are not nice sand beaches like Greenwich beaches.

The weather: Beware of misleading statistics. We don't get 2" a year, but more around 20". Spring and Fall are gorgeous. Summer is pretty humid with lots of rain. Winters are long and cold.

The schools: Stamford has numerous public schools. Preschools are very expensive . 10% of your salary will go into it, no matter whatother expenses you have and how many children you have. Elementary schools lack after-school programs. Teacher/children ratio is good. Schools are safe.

Employment: I've never known anybody who could stay unemployed unless they wanted to. Offices/stores constructions are currently going on all over the place, which are bringing some more 2,000 jobs to the city. Salaries are higher than average, a bit lower than NYC.

Traffic: Stamford is small enough and well designed enough that you can go from one side of the city to the other in about 20 minutes. Traffic around the train station has always been a mess and it will get much worse with all the new constructions downtown.

Property taxes: High (but not as high as Bridgeport) and getting higher every year. Count around $6,000 for a one-family house.

Utilities: the highest in CT. Someone must have though we're all "new rich".
There's a 55% increase in water prices planned for December. Heating an apartment during the winter months will cost you around $400. A house...I'll le

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kevin
Wilton, CT

crazy expensive - 7/30/2015

Fairfield county connecticut is the most expensive fully adjusted place to live in the contninental us. and its in decline

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Disillusioned
Stamford, CT

Stamford exemplifies the death of middle-class fam - 3/20/2015

Stamford has changed much since the reveiws below. I’m writing this review after 18 years in Stamford, and toward the end of the toughest, longest winter we’ve ever had, so you may choose to overlook the depressing undertone if you wish, but take the facts at their face value, because they’re 100% true. Stamford is still a safe, beautiful, vibrant city with something for everyone: parks, beaches, restaurants, nightlife, shopping, nature, special events, museums, libraries, gyms, a Chelsea Pier, skating rinks, etc. It is a mere 45-minute ride from NYC and surrounded by cities that have everything Stamford doesn’t. In short: Home Depot, Whole Food, Costco, Aquarium, Children Museum. Schools are pretty good (compared to places with low high-school graduation rates and under 15% getting a college education) and always in close proximity to where you live – although you’re never safe from an arbitrary redistricting that will send your children to the worst school on the other end of town just so your nice neighborhood school can welcome children from the bad neighborhoods (which happens about once every 10 years). Property taxes are reasonable compared to cities such as Bridgeport, unless of course you leave in very affluent areas (think “Dolphin Cove) where you can expect to pay up to $25,000 in property taxes. The only cons (apart from the title of this comment – see below for more detail) are traffic and the roads: TRAFFIC: Traffic has become very congested throughout, and most plans to improve things quickly turn sour because of bad planning (the intersection of Myrtle and Elm is one of the best examples of that). The “red zones” (i.e. you get one light red, you get all lights red) are not helping decongest busy avenues and morning/evening commute is a pain as it may take you as long to cross the city has to go home to another one. Stamford City’s motto is “Stamford, the City that Works” and they’ve been true to it. For the past 15 years, there has been no respite from road work and construction, and there is none in sight. ROADS: The roads are kept clean during the winter but they’re extremely damaged (both by the snow plowers and the utility companies that do repairs and upgrade their underground fittings regularly). The Citizen Service Center is good at logging in requests for work, but doesn’t control the work done. So everyone (subcontractors, utility companies, etc.) do what they want and the results are roads with gigantic bumps and potholes, and disgusting patchwork repairs that don’t last. Downtown is better than most areas. Now, to the subject of this post… Why, you ask, does Stamford exemplify the death of middle-class family? Well, here you go: 1) HOUSING & UTILITIES: Over the past few years, the cost of life has tripled and the housing and utility costs have become utterly absurd. To reside in a safe area, expect to shed at least $400,000 (for an apartment or small house). Also expect your utilities to run in the $4,000/year at best (unless you have a small apartment and central air). Gas is your best bet for heating. If your home has electrical or oil heat, don’t expect to eat much – which takes us to our point # 2. 2) FOOD: The area (Stamford/Greenwich/Darien/Norwalk) is seriously overpriced when it comes to food. If you choose to cook from scratch (vs. eat pizza every day), plan a $600–$1,000 monthly food budget for a small family (3–4 people) and forget about organic food altogether. You may grow some tomatoes and basic vegetables during the summer months, but that’s all the organic produce you’ll ever see in your plate. The only plus on the food front: several life-saving Trader Joe’s in the area, some sensibly priced but incredible places such as Layla’s Falafel, and a variety of reasonably priced restaurants in the surrounding towns. 3) DOUBLE-STANDARD SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND PROGRAMS: Connecticut and Fairfield County have excellent “social” benefits for disadvantaged families (Husky, free/reduced lunches, daycare, summer camps, etc.) and attract A LOT of low-income families. This means that most of the spots in Magnet Schools are given to children from [supposedly] low-income families, and that the children from low-income neighborhood are bussed around town to the best schools while your middle-class neighborhood school has 75% minorities and your child receives inferior education. 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That’s what I call “rigged” (or at least not as fair as we’re led to believe). 7) BEACH PARKS ARE BEING OVERRUN BY OUT OF TOWNERS: Our beach parks used to be beautiful, clean, quiet and safe. Most beach parks like Cove Park are now being overrun by people from Bridgeport, Queens and the Bronx who literally “camp” there with their 30-people families and stereo amplifier for a discounted, mediocre fee, monopolizing the space and the picnic tables and ignoring the garbage areas or common courtesy rules. The City has given up cleaning up the place or keeping it safe and quiet. They’ve invested quite a bit in a new playground a couple of years ago, only to let it get destroyed. If you want a nice beach park, your only option is to go to Greenwich and pay their substantial out-of-town fee (because they understood that unless you charge out of towners more, you’re going to attract unwanted visitors). 8) THERE IS NO REASONABLY PRICED INDOOR CHILDREN ACTIVITIES: You would think that a city whose children have to spend 8 months a year indoor would at least have an indoor playground, an indoor public pool, or something similar. Not in Stamford. Your only family options during bad days are the overpriced Chelsea Pier ($350/month for a fully inclusive family membership) or similarly expensive private facilities (unless you don’t mind spending all your weekend in nearby overcrowded Stepping Stone Museum or Aquarium and have a membership). “The” place to be during winter and on bad-weather days is the Mall. 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Maggie
Stamford, CT

Stamford - 3/11/2013

I don't feel comfortable offering an opinion about the city. I'm a member of the press and am just trying to sign up for access.

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SC
Westport, CT

Update later - 2/7/2011

Update later

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Elizabeth
Boston, MA

Relocating - 3/22/2010

I am trying to move to Stamford, Ct but I heard different comments about it. I would like to know from those who actually live there, what is their experience like?

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Kdog
Stamford, CT

Stamford - 11/18/2009

It sucks.

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Wesley D
Stamford, CT

QUALITY OF LIFE - 10/28/2009

Stamford is a medium size city with most of the amenities of a large city and is within an hour's travel to New York City. Major corporations have their headquarters here and train service is quite good. Roads can be a problem particularly the reluctance to build new highway "Super 7" or expanding I95. There are over 100 restaurants in the area of all ethnic specialties and, besides a good diverse housing stock new condos and rentals are springing up. "Downtown" has been evolving into a lively scene. There are two excellent public golf courses as well as private clubs in the area. Marine facilities are well developed and there are marinas as well as yacht clubs. The former manufacturing "south end" is being completely redeveloped.

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Dennis
Stamford, CT

Economy - 4/30/2008

Good place to live, work, and raise a family. However, now largely a financial services orientation and an expensive place for young families in mid-level jobs.

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Breelyn
Chicago, IL

How is the social scene in Stamford? - 2/27/2008

I currently reside in Chicago and I'm interested in possibly moving to Stamford in the Spring. I'm in my early 30's and I'm looking to move to a city that offers a contemporary progressive flare with a little classic charm. How are race relations in the city? I'm an African American woman who enjoys meeting, socializing and dating people from all backgrounds.

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todd
Stamford, CT

Stamford - 2/12/2008

public schools not so great...must go private. Everything else is just fine. Proximity/location to NYC is perfect.

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Dolores
Stamford, CT

Stamford Weather - 2/12/2008

Spring and Fall can be great. In summer expect temperatures exceeding 90 F accompanied by mugginess for at least 3 Weeks.

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Teresa
Reno, NV

weather - 11/14/2007

the fall is visually beautiful, the air crisp and fresh, the smell like roasted nuts.

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Ed
Stamford, CT

Downtown Stamford - 10/17/2007

The up and coming section of Stamford has arrived!

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Christelle
Stamford, CT

Could have been the perfect place - 10/5/2007

I've been living in Stamford for the past 12 years and made only one mistake: not buying a house when they were $200K. You won't be able to find a decent place for under $600K today. This being said, it's a great place to live. The people: Many of us are not "new rich", only old poor who decided to stay, even after the price hike, because we had made a life here. There's a decent Spanish and Eastern European population. Some of teh black population moved North when prices started climbing. Two neighborhoods remain predominantly black. There are only 3 kinds of people in Stamford: 1)Rich people who don't think twice before buying a 2 million house on the water or in the country side. 2) Middle class people who spend every penny they have in expensive middle class houses. 3) Subsidized people who will eventually manage to save enough money to buy a nice house somewhere else. The activities: For all tastes. Culture, sports, nature. The city goes to great lengths to make acticities accessible to all. Not too many parks though. The few beaches are not nice sand beaches like Greenwich beaches. The weather: Beware of misleading statistics. We don't get 2" a year, but more around 20". Spring and Fall are gorgeous. Summer is pretty humid with lots of rain. Winters are long and cold. The schools: Stamford has numerous public schools. Preschools are very expensive . 10% of your salary will go into it, no matter whatother expenses you have and how many children you have. Elementary schools lack after-school programs. Teacher/children ratio is good. Schools are safe. Employment: I've never known anybody who could stay unemployed unless they wanted to. Offices/stores constructions are currently going on all over the place, which are bringing some more 2,000 jobs to the city. Salaries are higher than average, a bit lower than NYC. Traffic: Stamford is small enough and well designed enough that you can go from one side of the city to the other in about 20 minutes. Traffic around the train station has always been a mess and it will get much worse with all the new constructions downtown. Property taxes: High (but not as high as Bridgeport) and getting higher every year. Count around $6,000 for a one-family house. Utilities: the highest in CT. Someone must have though we're all "new rich". There's a 55% increase in water prices planned for December. Heating an apartment during the winter months will cost you around $400. A house...I'll le

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Angela
Stamford, CT

Stamford - - 9/3/2007

The downtown area is alive with art, cultural events, restaurants, and people. It is a wonderful place to enjoy the parks, fitness centers, museums, and a multi-cultural population. It is 45 minutes from NYC. Living near the downtown area also means that you have access to college campus, a library, trains, buses, taxis. There are two major highways - I 95, New England Thruway and the Merritt Parkway. The majority of the population is educated and professional, yet there is an electic and diverse population with restaurants to serve many, many ethnic palates. It is a great city to live in!

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JOHN
Stamford, CT

Great, but pricey. - 1/1/2007

Stamford is a great place to live because of its proximitgy to NYC, but rather pricey.

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C.L.
Roland, AR

Very Interesting Area - 10/17/2006

Interesting the culture change in this area compared to other areas in the area. Densely populated,but quaint and classy.

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Babs
Bean Station, TN

Not what it used to be - 9/19/2006

I grew up next door to Stamford in the 60-70's and watched it get inundated with nouveau riche with attitude. It is one thing living around Old Money, but all these BMW (Big money wasters) moved and and turned it into an enclave of the Rich and Callous. Only very poor, nonwhites work in the local businesses (and they are shocked when someone actually speaks to them). Everyone is in a hurry and rude. The orginal Stepford Wives was filmed here and is now a reality. Such a shame, geographically, historically, and climatically a beautiful area. The people suck.

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Bp
Stamford, CT

Great Place - High Cost - 4/16/2006

The Stamford/Norwalk Metro area is really a great place. I love Stamford and its downtown area. Very clean, Safe, Reliable public transit, nice downtown. moderate winter temperatures more on par with NYC than the rest of NE. Stamford has a great beach and public parks and libraries. Stamford also has some great towns around it - Greenwich, Darien, Norwalk - Job market is pretty strong if you have experience in a field like finance or accounting, insurance. The Bad - Cost of Living is basically insane, I cant go out to eat around here without blowing 80 plus dollars, congestion is bad during peak rush hour going in either direction - especially toward NYC not as bad north during the mornings but coming home is a major drag...Also housing is insane I pay $800 for a small out of date studio near downtown and its a steal in this market - Great place to live and start a family awesome school system - I just graduated college though and the jobs that are here dont interest me, its too expensive for me to live and I would prefer a warmer climate and a younger scene...I could see myself coming back here when im in my 30's or 40's. Its a great place - Its just very expensive. After visiting other places I can attest to the fact that the people here are very snobby and status oriented but it never bothered me I just didnt know any better until I visited out of state. Bottom line - Awesome place if your older and settled down and can afford to live in one of the most expensive markets in America

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Jack
Stamford, CT

Stamford Housing - 4/14/2006

Stamford offers a range of housing options and costs. It offers relatively easy commuting to NY.

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