Review of Seatt,


Glad I at least checked it out
Star Rating - 4/8/2018
In 1990, I visited Seattle for the first time and I fell in love with it. Seattle was a different town back then as I have quickly figured out being here now for the past 6 months. I am in my late 40s and I'm a techie. Finding a tech job here was pretty easy if you got skills, but don't expect 6 figures right off the bat for sure unless you code.

OK, I always try to leave as unbiased of an opinion as I can when I post on these sites. I have lived in several different cities in my years and so far here are my observations:

1. Traffic and commute is absolutely miserable. I live on the east side of Lynnwood, north of town, and my commute to Fremont can range anywhere from an hour to an hour-and-thirty depending on the day, the weather, the number of car crashes. It's almost impossible to plan your commute sometimes because it can change at the drop of a hat. Roads were not built to handle the influx of all the other migrants coming to town looking for a sweet job. It's a true shame honestly. Seattle also missed the boat on building out its light rail system, shame for a metropolitan area that is supposed to be so progressive. Drivers here are miserable and reckless. Side roads are two lanes, most with no curb and gutter. Weirdest and most disjunct street grid throughout most of Seattle proper with confusing backed up stop sign intersections (no one knows how to work a 4 way stop!!!) and dangerous in the slick winter weather. If it snows here, stay home! I am not kidding.

2. I deal with some social anxieties, so the whole Seattle Freeze thing hasn't been a big deal to me. But, yes, I can see how people here can be cold and indifferent. However, I think that might speak to the whole millenial culture and the tech scene here. Most software engineers have no social skills.

3. Weather. So, yeah, it rains. Oh well. You get used to it. Sometimes the sun will even come out in between those clouds even if it's just for an hour. The temperature rarely has wide fluctuations. Meaning that it stays like 45 degrees for weeks and weeks at a time in winter. It's damp and boring and predictable, too bad that doesn't carry over to the traffic situation. But if you really like sun, you wont find it here during the winter and early spring.

4. Cost of living sucks here. Like seriously. Gas, electric, food, clothing, pretty much everything is more expensive. Like a plate of spaghetti and meatballs: $17. Seriously? A steak $35 bucks!

5. Housing and Rent. I am renting a two bedroom townhouse right now for $1900 in the suburbs. Most cheaply built housing I've ever lived in. Apartments are being built everywhere, but with a premium. Don't expect to find anything that's cheap here or affordable unless you want to live in Tukwila; which most people don't want to live there. If you're looking for a new build to buy expect to pay over $500k in the outlying suburbs. If you want a short commute, expect to pay $750k on average in Seattle or Bellevue. You may be able to get yourself something close to affordable in Puyallup or Covington, but your commute will be obscene. You think I'm kidding, just look at realtor.com. Also, the existing housing stock is garbage here unless you're right in Seattle's inner ring suburbs, outside of that, you'll find nasty dirty ranch houses made from inferior materials, siding falling apart and roofs covered in layers and layers of moss. In areas like Mountlake Terrace garbage homes sell for $720k. Most get torn down and subdivided to allow 10-12 cookie cutter homes with shared driveways all pouring out onto country roads that haven't been upgraded since they were built. You can easily see the disconnect between those that had and those that did not during Seattle's pre-Amazon days. This town was mostly blue collar and just middle class, it shows all over as you drive around different neighborhoods. There's certainly money here, don't get me wrong, there are mansions well hidden in all those trees.

6. Scenery. Holy sh*t, it's beautiful here. Snow capped mountain peaks, gorgeous coastline, tree lined streets in some neighborhoods that are amazing. Everything grows here. Definitely a gardeners paradise. There are breathtaking vistas all over the city. Oh and Canada is a short drive to the north if you wanna check out Vancouver BC or Victoria BC, both great cities.

7. Culture. I haven't really been out yet to experience the concerts or plays, but I can see that culture is important here. So are the Seahawks, "12" plastered everywhere all over town.

8. I need to experience summer here. Oh, hopefully it doesn't get hot, because almost no apartments here have AC. This should be interesting when the apartments here are built like crap. I might need one of those mobile AC units.

9. Why am I here then? If you read my review, you're probably like WTF, why don't you move you whiny SOB! I got here rather in a convoluted way, but I am glad I finally got here (I should've moved here when I was in my early 20s). Will I stay? I don't think so. Once I graduate and get the certs I need, I'm pretty much out of here. There are plenty of more affordable cities in this country. Will they be as beautiful, maybe not, but beauty is only skin deep they say. When everything else sucks, no amount of greenery or cloud covered mountain top or shimmering blue water will fix it.
Rob | Mill Creek, WA
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From your review, you are probably much younger than me. I remember Seattle in the 70s, San Francisco in the 70s Portland etc.… Then they became "it" cities. Everyone rushed in their reducing the quality of life and at the same time raising the prices. Paradoxical that that can be the case but I've seen that with most American cities with the exception of New York which has not really gotten larger and more populated but has become much more beautiful. Seattle not the case. I will tell you I lived there for two summers and you will need air-conditioning. Particularly if you're a athletic person i.e. male and perspire often or heat humidity sensitive you're going to need it. The old ploy in the Northwest and even in California to this day is "you don't need it here". That's a lie. Because all 100° in Portland Oregon. Several people died last summer because they didn't have a sea. Don't believe the lies and prepare yourself. I portable AC which was exactly what you're talking about. Get a double hose unit not a single hose. It works better. But even the most powerful portable AC will only cool off about 300 ft.² so I hope you've got a small master bedroom. As far as your comment on Seattle being beautiful, I hate to be a naysayer but I really didn't think so. I grew up in New England which to my mind is significantly more beautiful than anything in the Northwest. East Coast rivers streams waterfalls inlets jetties and East Coast trees and forests I found to be much more beautiful. You mentioned you were thinking of leaving and were concerned you would not find as beautiful a place to live. For my money, I can name at least 10 cities of over 200,000 people between Pennsylvania and Maine that are much more beautiful than Seattle to my mind. Okay you've got those big volcanoes there but that's about it. You have my status first and spruce trees but on the East Coast or 20 or 30 different variety of trees which account for the beautiful fall foliage that we have backed their. Try Boston, Providence, Portland Maine, Pittsburgh Pennsylvania, Manchester New Hampshire… I can go on and on. For my money Boston it is way way heads and tails above Seattle Washington in just about every category regarding quality of life. You don't have those in a boring robotic like techies which dominate the landscape. Much brighter people in Boston, better universities and people have much more personality. Far superior city. I was a Manhattan to but I'm partial because that's where I'm from. I found the two most overrated and overpriced cities in the United States of America to be Portland Oregon on an Seattle Washington. I could go on and on as to why a but if you are not a big fan of hipsters and techies then you're going to find the East Coast much more amenable. I know I do. No comparison. Good luck with your search and getting out of Seattle is a smart move. Incidentally, I agree with you about the housing. Old, rundown "ranchers". Houses that 20 years ago were purchased by blue-collar sanitation workers are now selling for $800,000 just because they're near "Seattle". So why, it's still in the old rancher the matter where the hell is located. Be careful not to get sucked into the real estate Russian roulette wheel of musical chairs. Good luck
Edmund | Spring Valley, NV | Report Abuse

From your review, you are probably much younger than me. I remember Seattle in the 70s, San Francisco in the 70s Portland etc.… Then they became "it" cities. Everyone rushed in their reducing the quality of life and at the same time raising the prices. Paradoxical that that can be the case but I've seen that with most American cities with the exception of New York which has not really gotten larger and more populated but has become much more beautiful. Seattle not the case. I will tell you I lived there for two summers and you will need air-conditioning. Particularly if you're a athletic person i.e. male and perspire often or heat humidity sensitive you're going to need it. The old ploy in the Northwest and even in California to this day is "you don't need it here". That's a lie. Because all 100° in Portland Oregon. Several people died last summer because they didn't have a sea. Don't believe the lies and prepare yourself. I portable AC which was exactly what you're talking about. Get a double hose unit not a single hose. It works better. But even the most powerful portable AC will only cool off about 300 ft.² so I hope you've got a small master bedroom. As far as your comment on Seattle being beautiful, I hate to be a naysayer but I really didn't think so. I grew up in New England which to my mind is significantly more beautiful than anything in the Northwest. East Coast rivers streams waterfalls inlets jetties and East Coast trees and forests I found to be much more beautiful. You mentioned you were thinking of leaving and were concerned you would not find as beautiful a place to live. For my money, I can name at least 10 cities of over 200,000 people between Pennsylvania and Maine that are much more beautiful than Seattle to my mind. Okay you've got those big volcanoes there but that's about it. You have my status first and spruce trees but on the East Coast or 20 or 30 different variety of trees which account for the beautiful fall foliage that we have backed their. Try Boston, Providence, Portland Maine, Pittsburgh Pennsylvania, Manchester New Hampshire… I can go on and on. For my money Boston it is way way heads and tails above Seattle Washington in just about every category regarding quality of life. You don't have those in a boring robotic like techies which dominate the landscape. Much brighter people in Boston, better universities and people have much more personality. Far superior city. I was a Manhattan to but I'm partial because that's where I'm from. I found the two most overrated and overpriced cities in the United States of America to be Portland Oregon on an Seattle Washington. I could go on and on as to why a but if you are not a big fan of hipsters and techies then you're going to find the East Coast much more amenable. I know I do. No comparison. Good luck with your search and getting out of Seattle is a smart move. Incidentally, I agree with you about the housing. Old, rundown "ranchers". Houses that 20 years ago were purchased by blue-collar sanitation workers are now selling for $800,000 just because they're near "Seattle". So why, it's still in the old rancher the matter where the hell is located. Be careful not to get sucked into the real estate Russian roulette wheel of musical chairs. Good luck
Edmund | Spring Valley, NV | Report Abuse

His review is spot-on. I've lived here since 1986 and to move here today? Not unless you're making well over a $100,000. I own a two-bedroom condo four miles from downtown Seattle. I will be selling it for an obscene amount of money. The commute here is absolutely awful, that's why I bit the bullet and moved so close to downtown. Yes, gorgeous mountains and water. Nice to look at but when everything (and I mean everything) is way over-priced (your dogs' ears need cleaning? Shell out 225.00 please) you don't enjoy the scenery much. And, the Seattle Freeze really exists. I'm a pretty friendly person (lived in several cities over the years) and it is harder than hell to make friends here, especially if they were born and raised here. They stay in their little family/best-friend niches. And the homeless situation, just google it. Yesterday we listened to Iron workers shouting down our socialist member of the City Council over the proposed head tax. Amazon has had it with Seattle and quite frankly, I don't blame them. Am I moving shortly? Yes.
Kim | Seattle, WA | Report Abuse

Trade your techie career for the weed industry. Then you can enjoy the scenery and not worry about anything else. Good post though; my wife and I live in South Carolina and hate it. I'm just looking for a home somewhere that I can park my license, but I see that Seattle ain't it. I'm a truck and bus driver, so I can't smoke dope right now... maybe I'll think about Seattle in the future lol.
Brian | Columbia, SC | Report Abuse

it's odd to review Seattle when you don't live in Seattle, you live East of Lynnwood, in Mill Creek. In addition you have not even been here for a year. The weather here is incredible. I have lived in Los Angeles, Boston Philadelphia and New York and the climate here is by far the nicest. It is beautiful here from May through the end of October. Our winters are mild and usually in the high 40's sometimes 50's. The occasional snowstorm every 8 years. You also have social anxiety and haven't gone out in the city you don't live in and mentioned you know nothing of the culture. This city is spilling over with incredible restaurants, artists and musicians. It is one of the greenest cities I have ever been to and I am referring to its progressive waste management, not it's moss and trees. It is also extremely passionate about trying to make social justice changes and attempting to understand racial inequalities and make changes to better the lives of those affected. It is also an incredibly tolerant and inclusive city where same-sex bathrooms are not a scandal and a personal affront. A place where people have more freedoms to be who they want to be or were born to be. For the people who comment on the homeless situation, this is a crisis affecting our whole country on a massive scale. This is not just a Seattle problem. While the housing costs are an issue here and it is unfortunate that the corporate monster Amazon is here caging workers in its fulfillment centers and creating a caste system with their coders and engineers in shiny towers jacking up our rent and real estate, putting people in tents and clogging up our roads. Illegally paying freelance workers with 1099's, much like Microsoft, and denying them their ability to pay into social security or have unemployment benefits. Yes, that part of Seattle is a real shame.
Karen | Seattle, WA | Report Abuse
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