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This place has no sun. This winter has been hard. We are in April and Next 2 week forecast is rain, low temps. Of course we could get hurricanes, tornadoes, etc. but we get constant flooding. Don’t move here if u like light.



Good and Bad..depends on what you are looking for
Hi, born in Germany, grew up in Queens/Manhattan. Lived in Ohio, Cali, PA, CT, MI and Europe. Have traveled all over the states and the world. Have lived very rural to big city. People coming from a more diverse area ( large city or Cali), you can't expect that a small city in western PA will be the same. That can be said for most of the country, it isn't diverse everywhere, that is somewhat unrealistic. The city can be kind of grungy, so if you are looking for new suburbs with generic new build houses with large great rooms, probably not the city. I personally find many places appalling because they are brand new, tacky and have no soul. But that's my taste, everybody is different I respect that. People are nice, they appear to be genuinely kind, but not over doing it. If you are coming from states with no taxes, well yes then a state that has taxes is a pain. Cost of living is decent, utilities are higher than some areas, there are good jobs depending on what your profession is. Everything is a trade off. Popular areas have as many negatives as positives. NYC, great place to live if you like art/music/food/nightlife, but it's a grind, expensive, and plenty of downsides. At different ages different areas suit all of us better. In my experience Pittsburgh is a good city that has value. Obviously the more money you have, the less problems you have. This is true in any city. Don't know of many lower income areas that people rate as great!? Yes one comment mentioned Harlem is safer than Pittsburgh. I visit friends in Harlem, there are gentrified areas, that are safe, and around a corner, a crack house. Same with Brooklyn, once again it has been gentrified, but many areas are still risky, specially at night. Same most places, America is somewhat violent with firearms and a system that seems to produce angry people. Lived in UK/Germany/Spain, didn't have to worry about anything like we have in the US ( the recent terrorist action kills way way way less people in Europe than our normal violence does monthly, without anybody really caring). If you want to live in the Burgh, visit for yourself and make a decision.



As a native that has always been in personal conflict with the non tolerant experiences I have lived through and practices of the majority here I can honestly state; after relocating for only 3 years, then returning to care for a sick parent I was the happiest, Felt Free, when I was away as I also had much more options...on ny way out again soon.



Harsh and Repressive
I am not sure where Bert got his information, from what I can tell he based his evaluation on economic and nothing else. In my opinion the review written in Oct, 2015 by Amy in Turtle revealed the true character of Pittsburgh that still holds true today. In addition to her comments Pittsburgh is sorely lacking in diversity in all area's that I have listed.
Understanding and appreciating interdependence of humanity, cultures, and the natural environment.
Practicing mutual respect for qualities and experiences that are different from our own.
*Understanding that diversity includes not only ways of being but also ways of knowing;
*Recognizing that personal, cultural and institutionalized discrimination creates and sustains privileges for some while creating and sustaining disadvantages for others;
*Building alliances across differences so that we can work together to eradicate all forms of discrimination.

Pittsburger's don't know how or don't care to relate to those qualities and conditions that are different from their own. They all pretty much think act and react the same way irregardless to educational, economic or social status. The only culture is that of a European Immigrant, with a take it or leave attitude. My proverbial summary of Pittsburgh, it is Clannish. A closed group of people united by a common interest or idea. It does not the luxury of a clique that could offer diverse groups of people that have things in common.

I am seriously considering leaving I moved here about 11 yrs. ago and still cannot adjust to the mentality. One last note on Pittsburgh big claim of the friendliest city that a farce the majority people here look past you not even acknowledging your presence if you are not some one they know and respect. The people take the negative approach to any interaction if they have the slightest misconception. They don' reason they react in a rude, disrespectful, defensive and argumentative way

Not a nice place to live unless you fall in the category listed above



Don't even think of moving here if you don't fall
Hello everyone. I see the rave reviews of Pittsburgh and must comment.
People who live in the Burgh tend to be defensive, so permit me to say:
I’ve lived in Manhattan, Queens, Bklyn, New Haven & Hartford CT, and rural areas in both states. In Pittsburgh I’ve lived in Squirrel Hill (affluent), nearby Greenfield, Bellevue (middle/lower middle class) Turtle Creek (working class). I was a journalist for 25 years, hitting cities in most areas, researching all. I have enjoyed virtually everywhere but here – even considered moving to Arkansas.
Here’s what they leave out of the livability lists:

1) Cost of Living: it's 15.9% lower than average but you'll probably earn at least 15.9 percent less at your job (and probably won't like it if you're boss is UPMC, or so I've been told).
Expenses you don’t consider -- water bills, etc. are obscene, as is what little public transportation exists. The less affluent can't afford to live in the more affordable two-fare zones.
2) Health: Check the cancer rate. Second lowest sunny days in the US, right behind Portland (or Seattle -- I forget). Many more smokers, (cigarettes are dirt-cheap). Paula Dean cuisine. Obesity over 27%. Local specialties: salad topped with French Fries. Kielbasa is a food group. I’m not complaining about the taste, but I’ve gained 30lbs in 3 years despite a rocking metabolism. Eating healthy is costly because Giant Eagle supermarkets are costly and they’re everywhere. Sky-high prices for fruit, veg and meat. btw -- there are pizza places on every corner, but despite tons of Italian Americans you can’t get a decent slice and don't even think about Chinese. I'm just saying.
3) Sports. If you’re crazy for football, fine. If not your opportunities to socialize(or have a passing conversation that interests you) are infrequent.
4) The nicer the neighborhood, the less the diversity (true of many places, but tolerance here seems lower) Fixed ideas re: normality. You can live among the normal elsewhere, yet be perceived as peculiar. Working class suburbs can be xenophobic and I’m not talking about other countries. If you move to Dormont from the other side of the mountain, you’re from out of town.
5) Home prices. I could buy a decent house for $75K in my current neighborhood but if I wanted to sell I'd lose money. The public schools are terrible.
6) Crime: I’m a night person – walk my dogs at 2 am no problem in most places. The crime in Pittsburgh exceeds that of NYC by a large margin and I include areas such as Harlem (which can be a great place to live).
On a particular Sunday (I won’t say average Sunday) the 7/11 blocks from me got held up three times.
7) Driving. I don’t mean traffic. NY has traffic. Here, people that are exceptionally nice on foot turn nasty behind a steering wheel. Try getting on or off the highway, they floor it. They turn left on red lights, don’t always make way for ambulances, and don’t get out of your car on the driver’s side, or drive with your flashers on -- they take it as a challenge. Better to wave a red cape at a bull.
I blame geography. Most sections of highway lack shoulders and there is no alternate side of the street parking on two way streets, leaving skinny little opening in the middle where drives don't hesitate to stop and chat with friends on the sidewalk (fortunately there aren't that many sidewalks).
I don't know why there aren't one way streets. The congestion wouldn’t be noticeably worse – roads are already blocked much of the time for construction because the infrastructure’s falling apart. So many cobblestones. So many hills and mountains with narrow passes, sharp turns and insufficient warning signs. You really need 4-wheel drive.
8) Public transport. Few bus-lines and the fares are higher than average. You might yearn to move to a less costly neighborhood in a two-fare zone, but the price of a bus-pass rules it out for lower income citizens.
9) Demographics. If you’re middle-aged and divorced or your spouse has died, you’re surrounded by families in most areas (I realize lower divorce rates (I think they're lower) are actually a plus, but parents here spend time shuttling their kids to school events, usually athletics. Not as many moms reserve 'my-time' (book clubs, etc.) In up and coming areas where unmarrieds predominate, the average age is young.
10) These up and coming neighborhoods – they really are nice. But places like Regents Square, East Liberty and Lawrenceville grow more and more costly, whereas school districts and crime rates haven't changed.
11) Did I mention the crime rate? I repeat -- check the stats. I mean it. Your odds of being a victim here are very high.
12) Lack of Green Spaces -- shut up about Frick Park, I know how to get there, and the North Hill Parks, too -- a fraction live there. The rest of us haven’t got green space of any size in spitting distance. You would imagine with the pretty hills and mountains that there would be scenic walkways here and there where you could push a carriage or ride a bike. Forget it. Apart from a short stretch downtown along the river, shorelines are inaccessible and horizons are dominated by factories, many of shut down.
Sidenote: the heralded Pittsburgh skyline is indeed beautiful, prettier than New York's, but it is not visible at ground level (see reasons above). Nevertheless, I quite enjoy it when I'm driving over bridges.
13) Football Fanatics (I concede this isn’t always a negative for everyone). But the buses here have flashing lights that say 'Go Steelers.' If you hate football, you'll spend Sundays alone, I tell you!

Okay, some good news for the subsets who might like it in Steelers Country:

Relatively affluent families who can make the mortgage on a house of $250K of more and find a job with a salary equal to their current one will live in a much nicer house in one of the safer school districts.
They will have more disposable income for restaurants, entertainment and weekly visits from the gardener and housekeeper. Not to be sneezed at.
But the rain and snow will pour down on their heads just as often. They won't escape road-rage, weight-gain or crime. Please be aware that the feeling of safety in neighborhoods like Squirrel Hill (where you’ll need $350K for a nice house) is illusory. I'm not saying you can't avoid the dodgy corners if you know where they are. But if you buy a $350K home elsewhere, there's a police presence that's lacking here.

Friendly people. Niceness isn’t an act. If you go to a cocktail party, they take an interest, instead of looking over your shoulder for someone more important to talk football with.

(Personally, I think friendliness is overrated as a livability quotient. Unlike sunshine, you can make friends anywhere, and a couple of dozen is adequate for most people. It’s not all that hard to find that many with a little effort).

So. I've tried not to be too offensive to my fellow locals but I probably haven't tried hard enough. Try to forgive me. Different strokes for different folks, as they say.

They also say go back where you came from. I’d move, but ill-health would make re-employment difficult. I came for a promising job, urged by my best friend. He loves living here and enjoys a much better quality of life than he did in Manhattan, where a nearly seven figure salary doesn’t buy much, relatively.

But that's it, isn't it? Money and demographics. Good move for families with good income. Not so good for the less affluent. You might improve your standard of living slightly as defined by the livability scales but , but take my word. Believe me, ut it won't be nearly enough to offset the drawbacks.

In my opinion.



Austin TX to Pittsburgh PA
I am a college educated mellennial who moved from Austin to Pittsburgh in 2013 and this city is freakin' awesome. Here's why:

-this is one of the most friendly places I have ever been.
-the entire area has unbelievable character, the architecture makes you feel like you have steped back in time to a late 1800s industial city. Everything is brick, there are old smoke stacks and remenants of the steel industry everywhere.
-in TX the weather is great but it is unavoidable that the sun will fry your skin. In Pittsburgh it is cloudy a lot but that results in people staying way younger looking. I often can't tell if a woman is 45 or 30. When the sun does come out the landscape around Pittsburh is beautiful lush green mountains checkered with patches of golf course like grass around the houses.
-it is not unbearably crowded like Austin and other "hot spots" (bay area, Seattle)
-the art and cultural scene is good with a bunch of museums left over that rich industrialists built long ago, the Andy Worhol museum, etc.
-A lot of the main stream restraunts in Pittsburgh are overrated but if you do some digging there are amazing smaller places few people seem to know about. It also seems like great new restraunts are poping up everwhere.
-lots of good microbreweries.
-very affordable housing and robust housing market, houses in Austin are 20% over valued, here you can find a great house easily and it seems like everyone and thier dog is making money off an investment property. With Google expanding and Uber moving into the area it is going to keep pushing values up even faster in many parts of Pittsburgh.
-there are blue collar locals who love sports and hip, well-read folks so you get both ends of the spectrum.
-top schools, both primary and secondary with CMU having the top Computer Science graduate program in the world. There are a lot of sharp people around.
-Pittsburgh learned from the past and has a diversified economy making it more resiliant to economic downturns.

I sound like a Pittsburgh spokesperson but I am really happy I moved here. My only con is to steer clear of the Clairion area as the factory there gives off too much air pollution and drives down the air pollution average readings for the area, which aren't great anyway. The air in Pittsburgh in general is getting cleaner every year. With that getting under control Pittsburgh is going to stop being the best kept secret and really start booming. You can see the begining of the Pittsburgh renasissance already with all the construction and outside investment. I'm glad I got in early.



Pittsburgh Sunshine Reply
The sun shines 58 days annually in Pittsburgh.Source: National Weather Bureau.



Ellis School
Parents BEWARE and WARNED. I am very disappointed in this administration as well as a few teachers with regards to how they handle bullying. They are more concerned for their own reputation and liability issues than a student who has been bullied and the psychological aspects that stem from it. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP AND ELLIS BETTER GET A GRIP SOON OR THEY WILL BE EXPOSED BY SOME OTHER FAMILY IN THE FUTURE. THE COUNSELORS ARE GREAT BUT THEY ARE HELPLESS AGAINST THIS ADMINISTRATION. SO PARENTS BEWARE AND READ OTHER REVIEWS ABOUT THIS VERY SAME ISSUE. It is more devastating to a child who has been a victim of bullying when their own teacher and administration does not stand behind them. Instead, at Ellis, they will treat the bullied child as though THEY are at fault and dismiss them from their school. Making that child feel worthless. I am hopeful this has not scared my granddaughter. She already has trouble sleeping and eating and needs counseling from all this. So parents please beware. It's not just the bully but how a school handles it is very important to the well being and growth of a child this young. Physical bullying in schools NEEDS to END - "Keep your hands to yourself" is all that needs to be said to a child who hits and punches!!!!



I recently relocated to Pittsburgh
I was born and raised on Long Island, NY. Lived as an adult in NYC, and spent the last 20 years in south FL. I moved to Pittsburgh 1.5 years ago for an executive position in healthcare, when my husband retired. Things I love: the friendliest people I have ever met, ever, anywhere. Really inexpensive housing, my 85 year old Tudor, walking distance from restaurants, movies and shops, would have cost twice as much in FL and 3 times as
much in NY. Lots to do; great boating in summer, biking, hiking, museums, art, restaurants, theater, lectures, concerts, sports,32
colleges, it goes on and on. Lots of educated people, jobs in healthcare, tech and education, and active Buddhist community
( important to us). Amazing restaurants, green markets, yoga downtown area. On the down side is winter. Spring, summer and fall are perfect in my book, but, winter is gray and snowy, January and February are a good time to get away- the airport is 20 minutes away. Taxes in my community are double what they were in FL, because of the highly rated schools (I don't have kids). I think utilities are high, I pay gas, electric, water, sewer. There is state and city income tax. Food expensive compared to FL, and a mani- pedi is $40 at the cheapest place. The roads are terrible, there is no grid, the steeet signs are not helpful and potholes abound. I got lost alot when we first arrived, and I am accustomed to driving in strange cities.
Overall, we LOVE it here. My husband is retired at age 60, and volunteers at the National Aviary and the Zoo, and he loves the fact that we can walk to public transportation to get downtown, where there are Steelers, Penguins and Pirates venues within a one mile radius!
The city is booming at the moment. When I retire in a few years, we figure we can downsize our house enough to afford to spend most of the winter further south, and then we'll have perfection. Pittsburgh is a wonderful place to call home.



Reply to concerns about Pittsburgh climate, cultur
Maybe I can shed some light for those considering a move to Pittsburgh. First, I have lived in Pittsburgh for eight and a half years, moving here from Southern California. ROUGH adjustment! The culture, food, weather, everything. Having said that, I have seen Pittsburgh really grow in the eight years I have been here, including the 'burbs. You have world class museums, and of course, three major league sports teams; Steelers, Penguins and Pirates. The black and gold thing is a bit much for me, but at times it is endearing. Pittsburgh is really a small city with a lot of big city amenities. Having moved here from California, the cost of living was a great bonus. Great cost of living. Cautionary note; we bought our first home here (never being able to afford CA prices) but were set back by the property taxes in Allegheny County. While I pay just under 4,000 a year in property taxes, I have family back home in California whose houses are worth 3-4 x what mine is worth and pay half that. As to air quality; I had heard "things" about Pittsburgh's air quality and I can honestly say I have not had an issue with it. I don't know if those reports harken back to when Pittsburgh's steel mills left the air in an abysmal state, including that one episode in history many years ago when the skies were literally black from pollution. Lastly, I will state that the weather leaves much to be desired. The lack of sunlight has finally convinced me I cannot take it any longer, and I am planning on moving back west. I want to retire where I don't have to freeze (I am 52) and I can't take all the gray, dreary days in Pittsburgh. Oh, and yes, when I first got here I was taken aback at how much trash there was. I think that has improved, and I have curbside recycling that is multi-stream. I recycle about 95 gallons a week.



No great salaries
Actually i was writing a comment to someone who was saying about how bad is to find a job her etc etc, they need to fix this web site...



A small big city
Pittsburgh is my has grown into a true gem.Pittsburgh has many small interesting neighborhoods.there is a variety of cultural activities. The city is becoming more known for the excellence it provides in education, sports, dining and general livability. It has reinvented itself through the creative efforts of in informed leadership. There is an interesting blend of old in new, traditional and modern. Come and see for yourself!



A small big city
Pittsburgh is my has grown into a true gem.Pittsburgh has many small interesting neighborhoods.there is a variety of cultural activities. The city is becoming more known for the excellence it provides in education, sports, dining and general livability. It has reinvented itself through the creative efforts of in informed leadership. There is an interesting blend of old in new, traditional and modern. Come and see for yourself!



It's all about the Sports
Pittsburgh is a wonderful place to raise a family - low cost of living, low crime(at least in the suburbs) but if you plan to live here, it's requirement to be sports-obsessed. This town live and dies by its sports teams - especially the Steelers. If you love sports, this is the place to be.



Reply to remark concerning sunshine
In response to claims of 160 days of sunshine per year in Pittsburgh.
Sir and to everyone in Western Pa.{we receive 58 sunny days annually.


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